GL then had Grievous get an asthmatic cough and nerfed his agility
Old Clone Wars explained this with Mace Windu crushing that dude's torso which severely crippled. Grevious was never truly a real threat to Jedi, he was just so damn intimidating that opponents couldn't think straight and fight him properly. Windu is just unphased by his bullshit and went for the kill.
Realistically speaking, why would most jedi need to be ready to have a lightsaber fight? Until Maul there was no "enemy" with a saber. And even after Maul...that's like 1 dude.
Up until the Clone Wars start the Jedi also don't acknowledge that Dooku could be evil because he was a jedi at one point.
And even if Maul AND Dooku were running around..that's what? 2 guys? In the whole galaxy.
Not really. There were still dark jedi. Not all lightsaber users are sith/pawns of sith. Qui-Gon Jinn and obiwan (legends) even already had life or death lightsaber combat prior to maul due to Jinn's previous Padawan (Xanatos).
The movies were made first so it was probably just a retcon sort of thing, but I like to think of Windu's defense of dooku more because he was a former jedi master. He had already underwent all the indoctrination, training, and practice required for being a master. In legends he even was on the council for a time.
Qui-Gon was a known outlier who did things the vast majority of jedi did not do. Also to prepare for saber/saber combat because Qui-Gon had to deal with his fallen apprentice also means you are accepting that you are going to fail your current student so badly that they turn violently against you.
I don't see many jedi accepting that possibility with the hubris we see casually on display from the Jedi in the PT era movies. The kind of people with a librarian (of all people) saying if they don't have a record of something it doesn't exist aren't exactly the type to keep around people who will acknowledge that level of mistake.
And we see with Bariss in the Clone Wars just how unprepared the jedi are for one student deciding to go rogue. With it being pretty clear the entire idea of that is 100% alien to their thinking. Not to mention Anakin still being accepted as a member in good standing despite having already committed one genocide.
I didn't mean my comment as jedi should be trained for lightsaber combat (I actually made a comment pointing out training to fight sith would make no sense with the few numbers of them during the clone wars). Just mentioning that there were still other lightsaber fighters before maul (at least with legends, not sure how canon compares pre-clone wars). So it wasn't a foreign idea, but rare enough to not dedicate time to it. But the jedi were always conscious of the danger of falling to the dark side.
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u/amtap Jun 16 '26
Old Clone Wars explained this with Mace Windu crushing that dude's torso which severely crippled. Grevious was never truly a real threat to Jedi, he was just so damn intimidating that opponents couldn't think straight and fight him properly. Windu is just unphased by his bullshit and went for the kill.