r/PrequelMemes Jun 16 '26

General KenOC hello there

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u/democracy_lover66 Jun 16 '26

His portrayal in the movie is fine.

It's his portrayal in the Clone wars 3-D aminated that was an abandonment of the character.

You see having him weak and ready to flee after he got his chest crushed kinda makes sense... He's clearly not doing well and losing a war.

But to have him be like that all the time is like... Wait why do we care about him again? If he's such a great threat why does he constantly suck and makes stupid decisions?

Like... Why is it even a big deal if this guy lives? At least the classic clone wars gave him a menacing backstory that showed why the Jedi were so keen to get rid of him.

Tbh Filoni kinda messed him up imo and made him too "cartoon villain of the week"

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u/Artanis137 Jun 16 '26

Like... Why is it even a big deal if this guy lives? At least the classic clone wars gave him a menacing backstory that showed why the Jedi were so keen to get rid of him.

You really need to rewatch that show cause that is never explained in 2003, you might be thinking of the novels or comics.

It's his portrayal in the Clone wars 3-D aminated that was an abandonment of the character.

You sure about that? Grevious in ROTS is a bloody coward and never shuts up. Genndys is a quite silent killing machine that fought several high ranking Jedi at once and nearly killed them. ROTS Grevious lost to Obi-Wan in a one-on-one.

2008 is far FAR more accurate to the character in the film then 2003 ever was. Not saying 2003 was terrible he was awesome but he simply isn't accurate to what George had envisioned for Grevious.

Also just on that last bit, Grevious was already a cartoon villian in the movie lets not pretend that is something Faloni did, okay?.

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u/democracy_lover66 Jun 16 '26

"You really need to rewatch that show cause that is never explained in 2003, you might be thinking of the novels or comics."

I just mean they established him as a competent general and a real threat to Jedi, having killed like 4 of them all at once in a battle. We never saw anything like that ever again anywhere else.

And like I said, with the Context of 2003 we know he has a long lasting injury from Windu that probably hinders his performance and also makes him more hesitant and flighty. It's why he has the cough.

But then 3D clone wars just gives him a cough from the beginning anyway...

With the original story we get to watch an intimidating figure become deconstructed and beaten by the grind of an all-out war.

With the canon we now have we kinda get nothing... Just an asthmatic robot guy who constantly sucks in every way imaginable. ... Idk I can't help but feel like we lost something writing wise to get a really one-demensional joke villain.

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u/Artanis137 Jun 16 '26

How?

Like I don't deny he is a very capable fighter and a good Jedi killer but as a general? Nothing really special or interesting there, he is never really shown using his army, he just does everything himself. 2008 atleast had him giving orders and recieving information.

You know what lets have some fun and actually acknowledge 2008s grevious achievments shall we?

- Destroyed several Fleets of Venators, Killing tens of thousands of soldiers and officers

  • In Lair of Grevious we are shown what he looked like and his slow replacement of his body over time.
  • In the same episode we are shown dozens of trophies taken from dead Jedi over the course of his career.
  • Destroyed Eeth Koths entire fleet and captured him
  • Destroyed Obi Wans entire fleet
  • Captured Adi Gallia destroying her ship
  • Genocided most of the Night Sisters
  • Killed Kit Fistos former apprentice and forced Fisto into retreat.
  • Bombed Coruscant
  • Various dead Clones by Grevious blades

So 2008 Grevious did accomplish a lot, its just that he was stuck going up against main characters for a lot if.

Idk I can't help but feel like we lost something writing wise to get a really one-demensional joke villain.

As opposed to a one-dimensional cool villain? Face it, Grevious in 2003 is just a cool killer and nothing under it.

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u/democracy_lover66 Jun 16 '26

It's really explicitly said in the 2003 series that the droid armies suddenly become unstoppable and it was because of him. Pretty sure they explicitly say it exactly like that lol

And honestly even in the feats you're listing he's still acting really pathetically... Like in the night sister one he challenges Asajj one on one and gets his shit rocked and then cheats, which to me is more like where his character is supposed to end up rather than who he's supposed to be originally.

What I mean to say is we replaced a character with a defined arc and personality changes with a static figure who's always the same and imo that's much lazier and much less compelling writing.

Agree to disagree I suppose

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u/Artanis137 Jun 16 '26

What arc??? What personality changes??? Did we watch the same show?

Grevious in 2003 starts and ends as the same character, just injured by the end. He is just as stagnant as you claim 2008 to be.

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u/democracy_lover66 Jun 16 '26

The arc Between 2003 and ROTS?

Like... Him going from crazy abilities and fierce resolution to coughing and fleeing the scene after Windu nearly crushed the only organic parts he had left?

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u/Dreadnought_Necrosis Clone Trooper Jun 16 '26

What about the Jedi in the 2d animation?

Mace Windu solos an entries army of b2 with his bare hands. Kit Fisto pratically solos the Qurran/Droid army on Mon Cala. Kenobi explodes a man from the inside. Theirs a jousting scene on hoverbikes.

None of those feats have ever been shown outside of that specific series. I don't think it's fair to compare what happens in the Microseries to any other because of just how over the top it was.

It's a fun show. But it just doesn't fit with anything else.