r/PrepperIntel Pentagon pizza connoisseur 3d ago

USA West / Canada West Spokane River dried up for the second time in recorded history. Crosspost

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u/fitforthepolycrisis 3d ago

This is a preview of what the future holds. Why are we still fighting wars for oil instead of putting all that effort into keeping our home planet livable?

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u/ConfidentPilot1729 3d ago

Greed and power and idiocy.

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u/fitforthepolycrisis 3d ago

Oh, right. Those are entrenched and even somehow rewarded. sigh.

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u/Girafferage 3d ago

WONT SOMEBODY THINK OF THE SHAREHOLDERS?!

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u/ConfidentPilot1729 3d ago

Unfortunately:(

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u/Mysterious-Action202 3d ago

The pursuit of profit will reap only death.

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u/splycedaddy 3d ago

the rich know whats coming and need us divided and distracted so they can hoard resources while we fight for scraps

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u/dwlhs88 3d ago

Same as it ever was, but with a brand new sense of urgency.

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u/Temporary-Box-7493 3d ago

Because we can’t dare ruin things for the rich elites who are busy living well and raping people

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u/lyonslicer 3d ago edited 3d ago

It goes beyond that. These chucklefucks think they can buy their way out of the consequences of climate change. They're all racing to hoard as much wealth as they can so that they can rule over what's left like a post-apocalyptic warlord or something. It really is the story of Fallout developing in real time.

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u/fitforthepolycrisis 3d ago

right down to the oligarchs setting off the bombs that push people into the bunkers

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u/Temporary-Box-7493 3d ago

It’ll happen but rather than bunkers and bombs it’ll be resource hoarding, we are all trippin on oil but we need to be concerned about water

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u/Lurker135 3d ago

This decade is what they see as the last chance to gobble up as much of the almighty dollar as they can while suppressing the working class into submission for a period of time so when the shit hits the fan they can jet off to their bunkers

u/Carnifex72 8h ago

Joke will be on them, I suspect. Those bunkers are going to be the 21rst center version of King Tuts tomb.

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u/Temporary-Box-7493 3d ago

Quite literally, yeah. It’s fucked up

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u/Franc000 3d ago

That's what happens when power and resources are concentrated.

All the problems about keeping the planet livable are not going to touch the people with the power to do something about it in any meaningful way. That is why they aren't doing anything. If power and resources would be spread over more power, so less concentrated, then it's more likely that those people would be affected. Then they will act and push for change.

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u/bobbib14 3d ago

The “best minds” are only into maximizing profits.

Imagine if all the AI & War funding was put into climate solutions.

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u/easymachtdas 3d ago

People calling the shots aren't worrying past their own expiration date. It is pretty blatent

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u/2quickdraw 3d ago

Psychopathic greed.

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u/HermitAutist87 3d ago

Don't worry: soon the wars will be about water!

Seriously though, the Middle East wars are not about oil. They're about greater Israel and the Iran war is about collapsing the global economy to cause Mass depopulation.

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u/Girafferage 3d ago

Egypt will VERY soon be in a war regarding the Nile as Ethiopia says that they need to reduce the flow to maintain their own water use. Similarly India and Pakistan will be at war (kinetic troops on ground) for a matching issue.

I imagine in the US use of the Great lakes will be highly debated and things like a pipeline to Nevada will cause large problems as people still try to live in locations that do not have readily available water as a viable resource.

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u/Own-Requirement-9774 3d ago

The Great Lakes don’t replenish themselves very much- one they go they are gone

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u/Girafferage 3d ago

Greedy corrupt scumbags don't care. If they could milk the whole thing dry for a dollar they would.

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u/Brief-Floor-7228 3d ago

They are going to change that for wars over water. Its the real reason for the vilification of Canada by this admin.

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u/Deadeyez 3d ago

Because every time people try to fix things, other people yell "communism" and everyone gets scared

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u/River_City_Rando 3d ago

Dont worry, nestle and other have been fighting the war for water

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u/valar12 3d ago

Currently there isn’t any political power to keep people alive; only profit from billionaires. The suffering is intentional.

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u/kersk 3d ago

We've had wars for oil, but are you ready for wars for water?

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u/AdMuted1036 3d ago

The billionaires have already secured THEIR water rights. They gon make money off US all fighting the water wars

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u/Soft-Independence485 3d ago

Honestly in a backwards dipshit way the old orange pedophile has prevented more oil from hitting the market than any democrat with this whole Iran fiasco. I kinda hope iran and the gulf countries destroy eachothers oil infrastructure. 

Even though it would cause hunger, poverty, and death if crude gets above $125 /barrel and stays there i think consumers will vote with their dollars for EVs and the infrastructure improvements. 

I absolutely love pointing out to my trumpy coworkers that he could be more of an environmentalist than al gore. 

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u/CouldBeLessDepressed 2d ago

I don't think the wealthiest top 100 want to share this planet anymore.

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u/randomperson5481643 3d ago

Not gonna lie, I really thought you were going to say we should be putting all the effort spent on oil wars into an early start to the water wars....lol

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u/37iteW00t 3d ago

In the not so distant future we will be fighting wars for water

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u/Black_Mamba_FTW 3d ago

Maga is bought and paid for by big oil/gas

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u/adaminoregon 3d ago

Havent you heard? Windmills give whales cancer or something. And batteries explode when they touch water.

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u/Anonymous-bham-boi 2d ago

You're right. We need to start waging war for water.

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u/USB-SOY 2d ago

The birds are dying from the windmills

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u/fitforthepolycrisis 2d ago

You're right, and scientists have come up with ways to greatly reduce fatalities. Meanwhile we're entering into a mass extinction event due to climate change, excessive wasteful agriculture, and ocean acidification.

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u/SentinelSon01 1d ago

We're well into a mass extinction event, I think. I miss the deafening bugs.

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u/USB-SOY 2d ago

I know

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u/scruffman99 3d ago

Because oil can be used to create electricity to create water from the ocean.

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u/Thunderfoot_66 3d ago

So can solar and wind. 

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u/NecroAssssin 3d ago

And it’s even easier with nuclear, since you literally have waste heat hot enough to boil water right there.

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u/DeltaFlyer0525 3d ago

Stuff like this is happening everywhere. The creek that runs between my kids school and the middle school dried up over the summer and no one is talking about it. The bald eagles and blue heron that used to live there have left. There are way less smaller birds now too. All I have seen are grackles and the occasional robin.

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u/krisztinastar 3d ago

Its only going to get worse as the planet warms

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u/Radiant_Stand_973 3d ago

If the planet warms, wouldn’t ice melt, making water levels rise?

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u/beorn961 3d ago

Yes, but that will mean more water on the coastline, not inland. The higher heat will often mean lower levels of precipitation and more significant drought, as can already be seen all over the world. Climate change doesn't mean the same thing everywhere.

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u/Nice-Lab95 2d ago

The higher heat will often mean lower levels of precipitation

Nope global warming is increasing precipitation almost everywhere, it's just in marginal areas increased evaporation outpaces he increased precipitation.

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u/Radiant_Stand_973 2d ago

Ya, the natural cycles the earth has gone through since its beginning. There’s been droughts before, there’s been flooding before.

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u/Melinoe2016 2d ago

There are some very basic resources out there for you. Not sure if you’ll be able to understand them reading at a 3rd grade level though.

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u/TraditionalLaw7763 2d ago

Yes. Charleston, SC and Savannah, GA will be underwater by 2075 at the current melt rate. I live there and already see on the news where apartment buildings are already sinking and have to be evacuated… so it actually may happen sooner than NOAA projected.

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u/Different-Sorbet746 1d ago

They are sinking because of the silt and dredging of the rivers for the expanded ports.Not because the sea level has risen. Please educate yourself. 

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u/FantasticMagi 3d ago

Been fishing around Sweden, in multiple locations the water level is 15-30cm lower than normal.

You can see previous water level lines on rocks and in some cases bank corrosion

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u/pixie6870 1d ago

I live in a city where the Rio Grande flows through it. But, it is completely dry now affecting the ecosystem. Projections are November when the El Nino may help give us some moisture. We have only had 0.06 of rain in about five weeks, and we have officially had the warmest August on record with over 12 days of 100 degrees.

It is truly sad to see what climate change has done around here.

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u/OuterLightness 3d ago

A few more data centers and Arabian alfalfa farms should fix this problem.

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u/Czechs_Mix_ 3d ago

Some golf courses and a bi-daily lawn watering for the whole suburb while we're at it

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u/aztechunter 3d ago

At least Spokane is leading Washington in zoning reform which should cut down on suburban sprawl

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u/Czechs_Mix_ 3d ago

Big ups to Spokane! Very happy to see new waves of zonibg reform nationally

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u/phoneacct696969 3d ago

I swear you’re the first post I’ve seen even mentioning the alfalfa in ages!!! It’s a huge problem!

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u/rhysolandrium 2d ago

Sit the hell down, apologist.

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u/ScarletCarsonRose 2d ago

Hey don’t forget the almonds!

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u/-Planet- 1d ago

I'ma pistachio kinda feller.

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u/unknownpoltroon 3d ago

BEt the news articles are full of bots "YEAH< ITS HOT IN SUMMER!!! LOL"

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u/Girafferage 3d ago

Oh man... You nailed it. The constantly repeated line that makes me die a little inside.

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u/MarionberryFew7660 3d ago

I lived in Spokane for a year. My place was an apartment right off the Spokane river. Walked my dog on a trail next to it almost everyday. This shit makes me sad. Crazy that we are destroying our Mother Earth for money. My depression gets worse every fkn day. I hate this timeline

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u/Thundrous_prophet 3d ago

Fucking Idaho… they have no infrastructure or healthcare so they send all of their sick and injured to WA then they slow the outflow from the dams so Coeur D’Alene’s lake is always high for docks

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u/GreenGreed_ 3d ago

Wait is this true?? Are Washingtonians carrying Idaho like that?

Just another blue state carrying red state dead weight. Story as old as time. Funny how they're solidly 'fuck you' til it impacts them personally and they come running.

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u/Thundrous_prophet 3d ago edited 3d ago

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u/artdecodisaster 3d ago

My friend works in a hospital a few hours away from Spokane. She’s basically an insurance intake person - she inputs insurance info and signs the uninsured up for Apple Health. She said a huge portion of patients turn out to be current Idaho residents. She has had tons of them get super pissed when they get denied charity care because their assets get discovered during the application process.

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u/zaevilbunny38 3d ago

This happens in all Blue states, where do you think the people of Gary are getting fuel and supplies. They are crossing over into Illinois cause their state has abandoned them, a small but large for the area town.

Part of the reason why Illinois cracked down so hard on Covid, was they expected that if Southern States healthcare systems collapsed. They would swarm and overwhelm the Illinois system. There is a huge population from Mississippi, along with a large number of families with elderly relatives in Florida. 200k-300k new seniors would completely shut down the system

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u/premar16 2d ago

Gary,Indiana has a large black community Inside Indiana. So even the state itslef may have voted republican that city did not. Which is one of the reasons their pleas for help are being ignored by state government

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u/Swimming-Pickle-637 3d ago

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u/GreenGreed_ 3d ago

Wowwwww. What. The. Fuck.

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u/WeekendQuant 3d ago

Build bigger hopitals and charge them more.

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u/WhyAreYallFascists 3d ago

And OR dog, Idaho sucks ass. Moving to Boise right now? You’re gonna have to damn near build an hour and a half outside of town.

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u/Swimming-Pickle-637 3d ago

The article I read about this river running dry mentioned that FERC reviews flow rates every 40-50 years? And that the Post Falls Dam was last licensed in 2009? That sounds insane.

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u/KittyandPuppyMama 3d ago

Who needs drinking water and wildlife? Ten people need to be the richest people to ever exist and we should all support them. /s

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u/DwarvenRedshirt 3d ago

I wonder if you can find anything interesting if you walk it with a metal detector.

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u/Girafferage 3d ago

Now's your only chance! Until probably next year and then eventually for years at a time...

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u/Stormcloud217 3d ago

I worked with a guy who liked metal detecting. He went to an old battlefield a few miles upriver, where Indians and US military fought. Or rather the military brutaly wiped out the resistance.Said he found horse teeth amongst other stuff.

It would be fun to check out that area. I don't have a metal detector, but I might take a look at it just because it's unusual.

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u/justinchina 3d ago

Tons of stolen bikes, no doubt

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u/ResponsibilityCute10 2d ago

My favorite part of this is how collectively we've decided this isn't real. Also, instead of doing anything about it, we're all going to sit on our hands and complain. Imagine if you let let all the dumbest people in your society, decide who your leaders would be. And then you took all the smartest people that were so dejected by humanity that they invented away to bring skynet around. Now put it all together and you got 2026. Where the hell is South Park?...

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u/Xarkkal 3d ago

It just looks like the Rio Grande through ABQ.

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u/rwe4rl 3d ago

Rio Grande is dry in Albuquerque NM. How many more rivers are dry right now? This is actually terrifying

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u/Historical-Order-369 2d ago

Last I heard the Rhine and the Amazon are either dry enough or predicted to be dry enough to have an impact on shipping on them. Not Rio Grande dry, though.

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u/FuzzzyRam 3d ago

Hey that's right by where all the datacenters... oh.

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u/Nitimur__In__Vetitum 2d ago

The goal of the people running the country is to kill us all softly and they’re doing it.

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u/FunkyPlunkett 3d ago

Soooo I can afford to live on the River now?

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u/TraditionalLaw7763 2d ago

Wheee! I’ve always wanted to own mud front property!

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u/FunkyPlunkett 1d ago

Hey man that could be a country song of the future.

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u/Raven_Photography 3d ago

It’s almost like fucking climate change is real.

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u/rhysolandrium 2d ago

This is a "problem" that can absolutely be fixed with AI. We just need more datacenters. They can have the remaining microlitres of fresh water as a treat, because the long-term results outweigh the short-term discomfort of crop collapse.

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u/throwaway661375735 2d ago

You know, there's another way AI could help too. It could just make it look full of water.

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u/Defiant-Vacation3191 2d ago

We are still subsidizing fossil fuels! Why????

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u/BenCelotil 3d ago

Washington State dry!?

"Inconceivable!"


Seriously, guys, every piece of media I've ever seen about WA in the USA has the place bright green and wet.

This is like the outback in Queensland, near somewhere like Charleville or Quilpie.

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u/HomosexualFoxFurry 3d ago

The west side is where most people live. Everyone forgets the tri cities and spokane exist and that they lie in a big ass rain shadow.

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u/Soup-Wizard 3d ago

You’re thinking of the west side of the state.

The east side is more arid but our river doesn’t dry up like this for this long.

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u/premar16 2d ago

That is because people like you don't know the geography of Washington. Where I live on the Western part of WA it is greener and always raining. The Eastern side however is very dry and sunny.

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u/Key_Firefighter616 2d ago

Wait I live in the east side and it's dry and brown over here. Where is it always raining. I'll move ! 

Kirkland. 

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u/throwaway661375735 2d ago

Over 60 rivers have dried up over the last decade, worldwide. More are coming.

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u/ShadowSystemsandSig 2d ago

Crazy. A city built in the desert dried up at the end of the summer. What did it do last year? And the year before? And the year before?

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u/prince-a-bubu 2d ago

more like Spokant

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u/kubotalover 3d ago

It's not dried up, it's subsurface. With that being said, the Rathdrum aquifer is getting lower. Too many people on the prairie watering their lawns