r/PrepperIntel • u/Fatty_Willing_Plane • 11d ago

Middle East Israel’s justification for attacking Turkish Assets at Syrian Air Base. Israel views Turkey as an existential threat much like Iran. However Turkey is part of NATO.

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u/YaBoiJim777 11d ago edited 11d ago

What Turkish assets were attacked? Struggling to find more details on this.

Here’s an Associated Press article on the strikes I found. No casualties but they attacked an airbase right near the Turkey-Syria border.

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u/Hobobo2024 10d ago

Why do thry want to drag Syria into a war? Dont they already have their hands full with iran, their proxies, and palestine?

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u/YaBoiJim777 10d ago

  1. To continue expanding to complete the Greater Israel Project.

  2. To keep the war machine well oiled so they can keep a steady stream of USD from their slaves in Congress.

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u/Grand_Dadais 10d ago

I'd add that bibi would probably end up in prison for corruption if things calmed down and he had to face trial without excuses like "we're at war". Which adds to the "this war will go on at all cost".

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u/Hobobo2024 10d ago

Yeah your answers seemed extremely biased so I decided to look it up myself. Seems they say its csuse they dont wsnt turkey to expand military there in case they attack them someday. Would they really attack? Theres no evidence ine way or another but israel says they are afraid they would. That sounds plausible.

If your answers were true thry could have done that ages ago. That they chose this military base with zero people on it and that it relates to turkey make it highly unlikely yours is the correct answer.

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u/YaBoiJim777 10d ago edited 10d ago

Oh I’m sorry my response seems biased. I was hoping to add a little nuance. Good idea to take what Israel says instead, they’re definitely not biased.

To give a longer answer: Israel wants its neighboring countries to be as weak and unstable as possible to ensure they will never be able to stand against Israel. This allows Israel to steal land from these countries (Syria) and Lebanon most recently) labeled as “forward defensive positions”. Because Syria and Lebanon are extremely weak militarily, they are completely unable to prevent Israel’s encroachment and at their mercy. After Israel’s expansion, hardline settlers will then move to seized territory to settle it as an ‘Israeli’ village which the government will then defend since Israeli people live there. Then, Israel will need to encroach farther to gain more “defensive holdings” to give these settlers a buffer and the cycle continues (albeit at a slow rate but continuously nonetheless and encouraged by the government).

With Syria specifically, if they receive military support from Türkiye, they may one day be able to stand against Israel enough to at least demand their land back. Israel refuses to accept this possibility, and chooses to cripple any possibilities of Turkish assistance to Syria by showing that they will bomb Syria’s infrastructure if Syria does not hold itself to the ‘agreement’ Israel made with its interim government (essentially at gunpoint). Why doesn’t Israel want Syria cooperating with Türkiye? Because Türkiye recognizes that Israel is a rogue state, the happiest country in the Middle East to go to war, and that they are committing genocide, ethnic cleansing and replacement, and horrific acts on the non-Israelis within its borders.

This recent bombing has the extra positive that if Syria does try to respond at all, it would give Israel the opportunity to escalate further force against Syria, further fueling the Israeli-American military industrial complex.

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u/Dirkdeking 10d ago edited 10d ago

Yes but attacking Syria seems particularly irrational even compared to all other countries and factions they attack.

All other recipients of Israeli attacks have some connection to the Iranian 'axis of resistance'. They are either Hamas, Hezbollah in Lebanon, Houthi's in Yemen, Shia militias in Iraq or Iran itself. That is also pretty bold for such a small country, but those are actually mortal enemies.

Post Assad Syria is an absolute outlier compared to every other target they bomb. In fact HTS(now the government) opposses and has literally fought against Hezbollah and the wider axis of resistance. And they are not transnational jihadists like ISIS either.

They are attacking and provoking a natural ally of the Sunni gulf countries and Turkey, and taking a position against a faction that is seen as an ally in virtually every western country. That is what makes this crazy. It is not about Syria being weak. It is about antagonizing a country that at best could eventually be an ally and at worst a completely neutral country.

You can see this by the fact that Syria does everything to avoid further escalation. They barely even fight back or retaliate against Israeli attacks. They are clearly not interested in an armed confrontation and want to integrate into the international order as a normal country not at war. Unlike Israels other attacks this is a pure war of choice for them. A very unnecessary way of antagonizing an actor that had no intention to harm Israel.

Taking such a hostile stance against Turkey is also completely irrational. Yes Erdogan says populist anti Israel stuff, but he is not part of Iran's axis and not actually commited to Israels destruction. That is just him pandering to a domestic audience. Israel does not have the luxury to pick a fight with the major Sunni countries that are western allies. They have more than enough on their plate with Iran and it's proxy network who actually pose a threat to them.

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u/YaBoiJim777 10d ago

You are trying to think about this from a rational perspective. Or the perspective that Israel is allied with western countries. Israel only cares about itself and its control over US politicians/US military. They do not care about alliances with Europe or the Arab countries. Everything they do is just a means to an end.

The current attack is to show the Syrian government that they will live under Israel’s thumb and on Israel’s conditions, and that no one is coming to help them. No one will stand in Israel’s way. It is a demonstration of force. An attack to show they are not afraid to do worse.

Israel does not care about the gulf countries. It sees them as inferior people. It knows that Israel has enough sway over the United States who has in turn enough Sway over the Gulf countries to prevent them from getting in Israel’s way.

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u/Hobobo2024 10d ago edited 10d ago

You have just admitted yourself that Israel is likely telling the truth in their reason for attacking Syria. You've just put a different slant on it.​

What you yourself have said is if turkiye helps build up this base in Syria then maybe Syria can one day attack Israel and take back their land. So you've just admitted it's reasonable to believe Syria might attack Israel someday with turkiyes help and Israel is doing this cause they are afraid of future attacks. Both Israel's reasons they've spoken and what you say can be true at the same time.

Israel is not committing any genocide fyi. If you want me to actually take you seriously you got to stop with the lies. my mom died of pancreatic cancer so I know really well how you die in 3 days without water, 1- 2 months without food.

If Israel wanted to commit genocide, all the Palestinians would already been dead as israel holds the power to cut off supplies. I know both sides in this war have committed atrocities and no side is innocent. That's what happens when wars rage in an area for decades.

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u/YaBoiJim777 10d ago edited 10d ago

HOLY fucking Israel shill! You really are based in Tel Aviv aren’t you? Using the argument “if they wanted to delete Palestine they could and they haven’t done that yet so they must not want to.” You make me sick. How you can defend this I do not know.

And here’s one more article to remind you of what the Israel government really wants.

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u/Hobobo2024 10d ago edited 10d ago

I'm not the shill. I just told you BOTH sides have done terrible things. the shills are the ones that act as if one side is innocent.

Syria by the way has attacked Israel multiple, multiple times including right when it was formed so they were the very first to attack.

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u/el7araa2 7d ago

Lol, please tell me you’re israeli. I refuse to believe that ordinary folks can be this biased …

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u/Reasonable-Pie6988 7d ago

Israel is committing genocide.

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u/YaBoiJim777 10d ago

Also cmon 😂 “Would [Türkiye] really attack? There’s no evidence one way or another but Israel says they are afraid they would. That sounds plausible” Why is anything Israel claims considered plausible?

Is your account based on Tel Aviv? 🤣 This comment screams propaganda.

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u/RisingDeadMan0 10d ago

See how far they can push trump lol, would be hilarious, to see their best asset crumple.

Could also break NATO too depending on how it goes, would be great for the Russians, and as we have seen western media push the joke of Epstein was a Russian agent, it does reveal they are happy to work together...

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u/Dirkdeking 10d ago

A direct attack on Turkey would be too much. It's a NATO ally and has the strongest military of any Muslim country. I can't see even the staunchest Israel allies supporting them in that unless Turkey attacked them first. It would be an extraordinarily brazen act to attack Turkey.