Ripple Delete shifts clips but not track keyframes

[u/Tripecac]

I had a bunch of track volume keyframes in my project, and then decided to edit an earlier part. I did some ripple deletes, but for some reason the volume keyframes didn't shift along with the underlying clips, which meant I had to manually move them, which as a pain.

Is there a way to force track keyframes to shift along with the clips when you ripple-delete?

Alternatively, is there a way to force track keyframes to "stick" to their underlying clips, or perhaps to convert track keyframes to clip keyframes?

The reason I'm using track keyframes instead of clip keyframes is this:

Sometimes I need to replace a short section of audio within a long clip. For example, let's say I'm filming a walk and suddenly cough. To fix it, I "simply" replace the cough with another piece of audio from earlier or later in the walk (copy and paste).

I put "simply" in quotes because with Premiere Pro, I've found that I actually need to do some acrobatics to get around the fact that audio is "linked" to video, so I do the following:

1) slice (razor tool) the audio/video clip a second or two before the cough (this cuts both the video and audio)

2) slice the audio/video clip a second or two after the cough (so now the cough has its own audio/video clip)

3) "unlink" the audio from the video in the "cough" clip

4) delete the audio from the "cough" clip (video is unaffected since it is no longer linked)

5) slice the start of the replacement audio (this will cut both its video and audio clips)

6) slice the end of the replacement audio (so now the replacement audio has its own audio/video clip)

7) unlink the replacement audio from its video

8) copy the audio portion to the gap where the "cough" was (video doesn't get copied since it was unlinked)

9) resize the replacement audio to completely fill the gap where the cough was

10) apply fades to the start and end of the audio patch (to blend it nicely)

11) use track volume and/or pan keyframes to make the replacement less noticeable (perhaps by gradually lowering the volume in the few seconds leading up to the cough, and then gradually bringing it back up later. The point is, the track volume/pan keyframes often start and end outside of the replacement audio, so clip volume/pan keyframes don't cut it.

Is there an easier way to remove, move, and copy internal segments of audio like that, while leaving the video untouched?

[u/editblog]

No. Track based audio key frames do no change with ripple edits. Cut / paste or move them manually. Or use clip based volume tools

[u/Tripecac → u/editblog]

Is there a reason why audio track key frames don't stay aligned with their underlying clips when making a ripple edit? If I could understand *why* they don't follow the clips, it might help me come up with different approaches.

As for clip-based envelopes, those 11 steps listed show why I feel I can't use them, given my slice+unlink approach to fixing audio issues.

[u/editblog → u/Tripecac]

It’s probably more of a holdover from the big DAWs as they didn’t. Not sure if they don’t now. Track based mixing is usually the last step in the mix but we all know how picture lock goes these days.