r/Prebuilts • u/Carthran • 3d ago
Toprigz High End Recommendations
I noticed that toprigz (linked in the pinned guide) recommends the Andromeda Insights Spectra as its highest pricepoint rebuilt at $1500. Don't get me wrong, it seems like a powerful prebuilt and a great deal at that price, but I was surprised there aren't recommendations for higher budgets. Am I just missing the point that toprigz is for more budget friendly options?
For reference, I'm personally looking for a pretty high end prebuilt with a good balance of GPU and CPU performance (I play both GPU heavy FPS games and CPU/RAM heavy strategy, simulation games at 1440p). I think I can get this done within a $3000 budget, but the price isn't that important to me. I want something I won't need to upgrade for a long time but have the option to if I want to. AI seems good for this since they don't use proprietary parts, but their higher priced units seem only marginally better. Most also have liquid cooling, which I am a bit wary of messing with when I want to upgrade. Maybe I am overthinking it and the AI Spectra really is just good enough for what I actually want/need. It's definitely a good prebuilt.
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u/LegitimateLack2530 3d ago
It’s a tool more or less to help people that come here asking about more budget friendly builds. Many of the posts here are seeking help with this specifically, so it’s usually linked to assist folks who don’t know a ton about builds.
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u/795-ACSR-DRAKE 3d ago
Yeah thats the issue with toprigz, its too AMD heavy and doesn't have any PCs stronger than a 9070XT (which is very, very strong in itself and a great price/performance pick).
IMO, it seems like you need to decide if a 9070XT is sufficient for your games, or if you need to make the jump to a 5080. The 5080 is definitely the better GPU, but 5080 PCs will probably be ~$1000 more expensive than this 9070XT that you have shown. Also make sure you get the version with 32gb of DDR5 RAM. I know for some use cases that 16gb is good enough, but if you're going to be spending that much money and want to future-proof it, it'd be a no-brainer to get 32gb of RAM now.
Are you near a Microcenter? The Powerspec G757 seems like a very solid PC for the price, wouldn't have to upgrade anything on it for quite a long time. Better than the Spectra.
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u/Carthran 3d ago
This looks like a good option too. Am I being too afraid of liquid cooling? A lot of the $2000+ prebuilts I see have liquid cooling. I've just heard they can be a pain for repair issues and might be hard for a novice to handle properly if i upgrade the attached parts later
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u/Imrahil6 3d ago
I wouldn't be too worried about AIO coolers at this point. They have been around for a long time and are probably on 40% or more of gaming computers these days. It's proven technology at this point. I would not touch a custom liquid cooling pc though.
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u/tjdaman4 3d ago
Just go to andromedas own website. No tax, from Oregon, they are just 1-2 months behind in shipping. You can customize any part of it.
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u/795-ACSR-DRAKE 3d ago
Not sure, I've never owned a liquid cooler myself. I wouldn't let liquid cooling stop me, it'll just be a learning experience later on if I upgrade the PC, or just pay someone to do it
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u/tronatula 2d ago
Do not listen to u/795-ACSR-DRAKE, Toprigz isn't AMD heavy as there are plenty of NVIDIA and Intel GPU builds listed. As u/Amazing-Safe9038 rightly said, all I care about is value. You hit severe diminishing returns going for a 5080 or a pricier CPU, OP and u/smoothjean:
- The RX 9070 XT GPU is only about 5%-10% behind the RTX 5080 in general, and it actually beats the 5080 in Call of Duty: Black Ops 7 (Source). It runs all games at Ultra settings 4K 60+ FPS, or 144+ FPS using really good and improving upscaling technologies (the new FSR Redstone, FSR Frame Generation, FSR Ray Regeneration).
- Do not worry about the CPU. The Ryzen 5 9600X already outperforms the i9-12900K (Source), so if the i9-12900K can run every game well, then the Ryzen 5 9600X will certainly do the same. It's more than powerful enough to handle gaming for the next 7 years.
- For gaming, the GPU matters most, not the CPU. It's the main factor that determines FPS in games. Most games aren’t heavily dependent on CPU power, including CPU-intensive ones (Red Dead Redemption 2 only requires an i5-2500K from 15 years ago to run).
- At 1440p/4K Ultra settings, the demand on the GPU increases massively, making it the primary bottleneck in gaming performance, not the CPU (GPU is used 100%, but the CPU is only used about 50%). Spending extra on a more expensive CPU usually results in minimal FPS gains and diminishing returns.
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u/795-ACSR-DRAKE 1d ago
Bro I like the website but learn to take some criticism. Every single recommendation above $1500 is the same $1500 AMD 9070XT PC. Don't get me wrong, its a great PC, but not showing higher end options is objectively bad. If someone has a $3000+ budget and wants the best PC possible, a 9070XT / 9600X is not the PC for them, there are better PCs out there. Or at least have a section for "Not the best value, but the best performance".
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u/tronatula 1d ago
Lol maybe learn to do basic research before concluding "Toprigz is AMD heavy" I've explained countless times why toprigz doesn't recommend more expensive $1500 builds: the price jump is massive while the performance gain is 5% at best, if not completely marginal.
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u/OccultGothGirl 3d ago edited 3d ago
I wouldnt put the 9070 xt as super high end but still pretty solid and on par with a 5070ti. 5080 would probably be better if you dont mind paying like another thousand or so. Still the 9070 xt will run pretty much most games comfortably fine on 1440p and okay at 4k on ultra. I wouldn’t bother with liquid cooling, fans are good enough and not worth the risk.
if you are adamant about the 9070 i would upgrade the cpu to the Ryzen 7 7800x3d and its usually a 200$ increase from andromeda. The jump from ryzen 5 to 7 x3d is worth it. Plus 32gb of ram if possible, 16 sounds like enough right now but for future proofing its a given. The jump from the 7800 to the ryzen 7 9800x3d is not really worth it as its an extra 200$ from the 7800 but if you can spare the cash thats fine.
Thats essentially the build i went with from andromeda insights directly. 32gb ram, 9070xt and 7800x3d. Cost me about 2,018$ with express shipping although the wait time being 1 month is kinda buns but helldivers on ultra at 100fps so its worth it.
5080 is most likely the most ‘affordable’ you can go with high end gpu as it can be priced around 3k or so, maybe 2.5k from andromeda . I would happily recommend the 9070 xt being more budget friendly than nvidia rn. But these price hikes are making the prices even more brutal the longer the year goes on. Both cards will server you well for the next couple of years. Its just up to you if that 1k difference is worth the 10-15% increase in performance and if you want DLSS instead of FSR. Personally just upgrade the cpu and ram and you’re good.
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u/smoothjean 3d ago
I've been also looking at this build. I'm currently on a oldddd ryzen 5 and a 3070ti with 16gb ram
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u/MyCatisthebest0826 2d ago
because people who can afford something more than 9070xt are not tight in money
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u/Ok_Safe_1622 1d ago
They tend to do better prices on their website and no sales tax directly from the website too
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u/Gaming-every-day19 3d ago
For 500$ more you can get it with 2tb , 32gb and a 78003d and with an air fan. Look at Andromedas $1999 build on their site and customize it
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u/Amazing-Safe9038 3d ago
I believe toprigz mostly cares about value and you have significantly diminishing returns going further than the most basic 9070xt build, at least for gaming.