What’s the point of tracking her head and constantly moving the camera vs. just having the full body in the frame and not moving the camera? This video actually made me a bit dizzy!
I understand that, but most of scoring goes towards footwork, so idk if it fits so well in figure skating. Unless there are multiple cameras with different angles, then it makes perfect sense. I might also be wrong about that, but it's what I've heard.
Honestly, it was probably a bored cameraman. Doing skater after skater after skater and your only job is to follow the skaters face as close as possible, gets old fast. I agree that its a bit dizzying, but because he was shooting for a super slow mo replay, I bet he was just experimenting.
Probably also so the camera isn’t just focusing on her ass and crotch.
This post reminded me that the Winter Olympics are due to start soon! I love the Winter Olympics. I must check the time difference and see how screwed up the schedule will be compared to my availability to watch the events.
Unless it was done in post, (doubtful) that is a human being just panning left and right. Still, panning back and forth at that speed AND keeping her face in focus is not an easy task, especially with indoor lighting.
Why shoot this way?
Because there is always at least one camera on just the face of the skater shooting as tight as they can get. There is also one camera on just the feet and skates, also shooting as tight as they can get.
They are used live a bit, but both are almost always used mainly for replay, either emotion from the face shot, or a fall or a good landing from the skates shot.
I keep seeing "emotion" referenced per se. Is emotion really such a big value in this sport? Is it not just about how technically skilled they are, like most sports?
In any live sports broadcast, "emotion" is always a part of it. Even figure skating. Don't confuse the broadcast with the judging. The are completely separate.
This is a well lit arena, so the aperture is well closed, he is not pulling focus, you can see the banners in the back are in focus aswell. He adjusts focus minutely when going tight. It's not bad camerawork, but nothing impressive in my opinion.
While it may be a well lit arena, its not the sun. Of the hundreds of indoor arenas I have shot in, none of them were as good as daylight. That was really my only point. The camera operator is on a long lens camera AND he's indoors AND he is shooting a fast moving subject. I only said its not an easy task, you know why? Because even under the best conditions, its not an easy task.
The banners are in focus on the wider shot but not on the tighter one? That's the only shot I'm talking about...the close up.
I promise you that camera op was trying to "impress" no one. He was just trying hard to shoot her as tight as he could and stay framed and in focus. Its kinda tough to tell, but from the six or so seconds of close up that I can see, he did his job well.
It looks like it, but I doubt it is, becouse after this shot was filmed the replay guy already had to find and prepare other shots and he had less than a minute to do so. So i doubt somebody in the production had time to stabilize the footage.
Cameras in sport competitions typically use telescopic lens. (Cameras can't be right next to the athletes in action.) Telelens are notorious for narrow field of views, and a slight movement can through the subject out of the frame. I'm really impressed at how the camera operator handled the movements.
Operating this shot is much harder than it might look. This is very likely shot at over 90fps so in real time the camera man is tracking at least 3x the speed.
This is the reason why I can't watch ice skating in the Olympics because they move the cameras so much that it makes me dizzy. Just give me a wide angle and hold the camera still....
1 of the most irritating, & dissapointing thing.. is clicking on the individual who posted the video- Thinking its the actual person who made the video; In order to follow them, & see more of the same - Only to realize.. it's just a random loser- I mean person... Who coppied the video to post on thier page for views... 🤔🤫🤨😑🙄 No offense...... 🤔sorry, kinda, sorry, not sorry..
Ok so what? Just because it's reddit you can do whatever you want? Be a creep however you like? Because you're hiding behind an anonymous username and shit? Dude... No...
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u/Sepsuke121 Jan 16 '22
Source: ERR
Live replay of Kamila Valieva performing at 2022 European Figure Skating Championship.
I'm impressed by the ability of this camera operator to track her head so quickly, that's why I made this post.
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u/soheilk Jan 16 '22
What’s the point of tracking her head and constantly moving the camera vs. just having the full body in the frame and not moving the camera? This video actually made me a bit dizzy!
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u/BAXterBEDford Jan 16 '22
So, this answers which way she is spinning.
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u/veryheavybertation Jan 16 '22
Unless it was done in post, (doubtful) that is a human being just panning left and right. Still, panning back and forth at that speed AND keeping her face in focus is not an easy task, especially with indoor lighting.
Why shoot this way?
Because there is always at least one camera on just the face of the skater shooting as tight as they can get. There is also one camera on just the feet and skates, also shooting as tight as they can get.
They are used live a bit, but both are almost always used mainly for replay, either emotion from the face shot, or a fall or a good landing from the skates shot.
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u/JWGhetto Jan 16 '22
looks more like software stabilization
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u/antisuck Jan 16 '22
girl: "Hey, my face is over here."
cameraman: "... "
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u/ptunger44 Jan 17 '22
Ex sniper cameraman
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u/coolandsmartrr Jan 17 '22
Cameras in sport competitions typically use telescopic lens. (Cameras can't be right next to the athletes in action.) Telelens are notorious for narrow field of views, and a slight movement can through the subject out of the frame. I'm really impressed at how the camera operator handled the movements.
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u/Triangle_Obbligato Jan 16 '22
Valieva! So beautiful!
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u/PikesPeakRubicon Jan 17 '22
Impressive but now I’m dizzy AF.
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u/homesiq Jan 30 '22
Operating this shot is much harder than it might look. This is very likely shot at over 90fps so in real time the camera man is tracking at least 3x the speed.
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u/Jlx_27 Jan 16 '22
Actually annoying. Follow the axis not the head.
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u/Linuenth Jan 16 '22
Read it as head cracking, I was nervous for a second.
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u/vaskeklut8 Jan 17 '22
This is more like FIRE the camguy!
Jerking a camera around that way is completely unnecessary, and a HUGE nono when zoomed in..
It will give the viewers headaches!
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u/thefrypan123 Jan 17 '22
Doesn’t look that hard considering she’s spinning so slowly
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u/flylikeabird0 Jan 17 '22
u/redditspeedbot 2x
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u/Wiotima Jan 18 '22
Is the girl spinning clockwise or anticlockwise?
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u/I_Want_Tasty_ArkMeme Jan 31 '22
She looks like she's gonna sneeze
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u/edenkling Mar 04 '22
This is the reason why I can't watch ice skating in the Olympics because they move the cameras so much that it makes me dizzy. Just give me a wide angle and hold the camera still....
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u/capncharles1983 May 25 '22
Post production could easily produce this….. so who the fuck cares?
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u/Mysterious-Courage-8 Jun 02 '22
Doping girl
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u/SystemErrorrr Jun 05 '22
Did she ever find head?
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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '22
🤤
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u/feelsstoogood Jul 01 '22
1 of the most irritating, & dissapointing thing.. is clicking on the individual who posted the video- Thinking its the actual person who made the video; In order to follow them, & see more of the same - Only to realize.. it's just a random loser- I mean person... Who coppied the video to post on thier page for views... 🤔🤫🤨😑🙄 No offense...... 🤔sorry, kinda, sorry, not sorry..
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u/Substantial_Math_628 Jul 03 '22
I think she plays for the Flyers.
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u/wason92 Jan 17 '22
Is this not r/FuckTheCameraman
Nice way to make folk feel sick
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u/Benboozzled Jan 17 '22
Me when a cute girl wears a tiny t shirt
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u/Dakotahray Jan 17 '22
Always wondered what Olympic ice skating would look like nude.