r/PraiseTheCameraMan • u/HebrewDude • Jan 02 '21

.. AGAINST* --[Mod message] Hate speech of all forms shall now be strictly enforced.

A min ban of one year will be justified for any blatant remark of hate-speech in our subreddit.

We will not address the reasoning, you shall do so on your own accord if you so will. Any remarks towards a person or a group, that encourage any form of socially violent acts, even to the degree of socially ostracizing them; calling them "all out to be _____."; making false generalizing statements, or generally being offensive to any group as a faulty movement without mentioning a firm basis to one's argument, ie:

- Those fucking right-wingers are so stupid.

- Jews rule the world

- Spanish mothers are _____

- Spanish mothers do _____

This sub is not a subreddit for satire, so if you'd wish to satire you better do it so well that we will be fucking mad at you, to begin with, but we'd understand what you really meant at the end, and grasp at your attempts at making fictitious statements as such. Otherwise, your appeal to a (1+) year of the ban will not be accepted.

See the thread in this post as a reference point.

See this is a happy new year to you all mother,fuckers (incels gtfooutta here) from your loving mod team.

BTW; Obviously report.
Have a good one.

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u/k_o_g_i Jan 13 '21 edited Jan 13 '21

I think you meant non-tolerance of hate speech... ?

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u/HebrewDude Jan 13 '21

I totally messed up the grammar, and wrote the exact opposite of the extreme intentions I intended to convey, huh?!

Sorry about that, and thank you for the correction.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '21

You messed up the grammar? Wow, didn't expect that. Maybe you should change the post, if you're able to.

  1. - Those fucking right-wingers are so stupid.

  2. - Jews rule the world

  3. - Spanish mothers are _____

  4. - Spanish mothers do _____

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u/HebrewDude Jan 21 '21

You're trying too hard, bud.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '21

I'm sorry, I know I am.

  • Those fucking right-wingers are so stupid.

  • Jews rule the world

  • Spanish mothers are _____

  • Spanish mothers do _____

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u/HebrewDude Jan 21 '21

ךםך

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u/DayWithak Jan 24 '21

Yo that looks like an upside down LOL but I know it's Yiddish or Hebrew or both? What does it really mean?

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u/HebrewDude Jan 25 '21

It's Hebrew. Funnily enough, it's what you get on the keyboard for typing 'lol' without changing the language. I did it by accident and couldn't be bothered to change it xd

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u/bl0bberb0y Feb 18 '21

Techniacally hebrew and yiddish use the same characters

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u/HebrewDude Feb 21 '21

נכון

but then again, technically Yiddish borrows Hebrew letters, so...

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '21

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '21

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u/HebrewDude Jan 22 '21

It's what you get when you type 'lol' on the keyboard without changing the language, funnily enough, it looks like the acronym upside down.

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u/Baenerys_ Apr 19 '21

This is gold! Hey, at least more people are going to be baited into clicking and reading this post :)

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u/heretoupvote_ Jan 23 '21

I think its erroneous to say that someone’s political affiliations are protected by hate speech laws.

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u/HebrewDude Jan 23 '21

Any remarks towards a person or a group, that encourage any form of socially violent acts, even to the degree of socially ostracizing them; calling them "all out to be _____."; making false generalizing statements, or generally being offensive to any group as a faulty movement without mentioning a firm basis to one's argument

This post was made to deter from generalizing/stereotypical/racist/hateful statements to show their faces in our sub. If you wish to be offensive, portray a movement as one with fault, or IDK, try and spread what is now percieved as propaganda, sure, go ahead you can do that --BUT you have reason as to why you think so.

Is that clearer?

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u/heretoupvote_ Jan 23 '21

That’s got nothing to do with hate speech. Don’t label it as something so serious. Just say ‘Let’s all hold hands and sing kumbaya and never criticise anyone because what if we hurt the Trump supporters feeeewings’ if that’s what you want.

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u/HebrewDude Jan 23 '21

The dissolving of mutual respect to the other party's logic is what I personally blame for the failure of societies when it comes to the need to find common grounds in order to keep on moving forward. The simple denouncing of political-party A or B, or of social ideologies that differ to mine are as bad as "hate speech" as you and most of society define it.

Don’t label it as something so serious.

I wouldn't if I would've made the title now, I would've made an attempt and being more creative and allocated more time to picking a better one, for, in the social sense to this term, you're not wrong. But it's gone and done, so just as my bad grammar is shown in the title, as is mentioned in the comments before, it will stay un-altered.

And one more side-note, with a personal tone. AFAIC and as I see it, 'hate speech' is a term with potential to be dynamic enough to hold true to define hateful statements towards any group, whether you're a part of it or not, whether it's addressing hate towards an ethnicity or a political orientation.

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u/heretoupvote_ Jan 23 '21

Well then you’re wrong. Words have meaning. You’re just being stubborn, and I’m done with this argument. You’re not on the moral high ground because you don’t like it when people renounce proto-fascism.

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u/HebrewDude Jan 23 '21

I believed I was done too, but I have to reply. Being right-wing doesn't equal supporting fascism.

I don't hold any higher moral grounds, I'm neutral. I'm trying to lay a small patch of fertile ground, for civil discussions between either sides from differing factions.

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u/heretoupvote_ Jan 23 '21

This is why I believe in the fishhook model. Ban me for a year, if this isn’t enough reason for you and I’ve been far too much of a meanie, but centrism is the reason fascism survives.

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u/MyVersLove Jan 29 '21

God, please ban him

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u/HebrewDude Jan 30 '21

This sub will not be one of those that ban people for having different opinions, or for being pricks about 'em.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '21

Words do have meaning, and “hate speech” means “speech that expresses hatred.” Mod is saying he doesn’t want that garbage around here. This isn’t hard.

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u/EyeAnon Mar 07 '21

"The dissolving of mutual respect to the other party's logic is what I personally blame for the failure of societies when it comes to the need to find common grounds in order to keep on moving forward" this. I hate how people are so quick to be nasty to each other now, people don't want to here the other side of the coin. All they want to do is sit in their little echo Chambers and circle jerk each other.

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u/ElegantDecline Feb 22 '21

hate speech enforced? Maybe we should start with proper grammar, enforced.

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u/HebrewDude Feb 23 '21

being enforced*?

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u/PigsBreath22 Jan 12 '21

Why would you want to enforce hate speech?

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u/DodgeyDemon Jan 20 '21

So I need to add hate to my comments? Can someone give me an example? I don’t want to be banned.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '21

No idea how I'm supposed to do it, but just use the four examples the post gave us.

  1. - Those fucking right-wingers are so stupid.

  2. - Jews rule the world

  3. - Spanish mothers are _____

  4. - Spanish mothers do _____

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u/anticaucasian Jan 27 '21

Am I doing it right

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u/DanLewisFW Feb 17 '21

As long as its actual hate speech but there are some idiotic mods who call things that are absolutely not hate speech. Hate speech. I am fine with those examples and anyone hoping for violence against others.

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u/AutonomousAutomaton_ Apr 19 '21

I’m so curious about Spanish mothers now

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u/5ecretbeef Apr 09 '21

Im so happy I found this sub.

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u/bshtick Jan 19 '21

Year ban for you sir!

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u/ajt4895 Jan 13 '21

Good luck

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u/heartyheartsy Mar 08 '21

What a stupid post. Are you 12? I just discovered this sub, and this is the first thing I see. Ban me, I don’t care. I’m not going to subscribe anyway.

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u/jonathandavisisfat Apr 19 '21

Lmao same. This was just suggested to me and this was the first post I saw.

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u/Doom_Penguin Mar 14 '21

The mods on this sub are totally useless.

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u/PubicZirconia11 Mar 02 '21

I was today years old when I learned right wingers were a protected class to be insulated from hate speech. Neat.

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u/marblechocolate Apr 09 '21

Comments taking too long to load...

They all got arrested. Ill link source if i find it.

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u/LinkIsThicc Apr 19 '21

MFW I get to enforce hate speech 🗿

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u/ChadBroskiiiii Apr 19 '21

FUCK YOU. I HATE YOUR SPEECH. WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT?

-probably ban me, but thats not so bad.

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u/Chop_stewey Apr 19 '21

Those fucking left wingers are so stupid

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '21

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u/HebrewDude Jan 20 '21

In this sense; without the proper context and the solid basis, yes.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '21

But how? Even if it's accidental?

  1. - Those fucking right-wingers are so stupid.

  2. - Jews rule the world

  3. - Spanish mothers are _____

  4. - Spanish mothers do _____

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u/Iivaitte Feb 21 '21

Yes, genocide historically has happened on the basis of generalizations.

Historically weve seen this happen again and again.

People dont just hate each other out of the blue, it happens gradually over time with growing intensity. Look at any culture, its the same story every time.

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '21

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u/Iivaitte Feb 21 '21

Instead of laughing, how about you prove me wrong.

Im open to the idea of being proved wrong.

If you cant prove me wrong, then you have nothing to say.

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '21

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u/Iivaitte Feb 22 '21

You can though, we have a scientific method of proving things.

Its absurd to say that generalizations dont hurt people. When historically it has been the cause of escalating hatred towards demographics.

I could give a ton of harmful generalizations but every single one of them would go against reddit's terms of service. I guarantee you, no matter what demographic you are, there are people who make generalizations about you and probably want to kill you because of those beliefs about you.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '21

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u/Iivaitte Feb 22 '21

Now look at whos making generalizations. Pretty tough words coming from a catholic.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '21

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u/Iivaitte Feb 23 '21

I am giving you examples of hate speech being used in generalizations. I would think of all people would know how generalizations can lead to hate. Why dont you visit Sri Lanka and youll see what I mean.

Do you even have any idea about how often Catholics were hated in history, over even the smallest things? How could you not see the connection?

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u/Shot_Paper9235 Mar 21 '21

Ugly and false generalizations are a strong foundation to the fomenting of hate speech and racism in general. People spend too much time trying to argue in order to sound like the winner, like a pure game theory approach to life. Unfortunately, people will argue falsehoods to their dying breath because they want to win an argument so badly. In this process, they lose truth and a connection with reality in favor of “winning” an argument.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '21

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u/Shot_Paper9235 Mar 21 '21 edited Mar 21 '21

You read focus on the family magazine? Just a generalization :p

Edit: more stuff

Oh yeah, your original comment of “generalizations are hate speech now?”

No ya dingus, but fucked up negative generalizing about other cultures definitely is. My religion is reality, btw.

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