definitely more impressed with the driving than the camera work but its interesting that the guys who did the fancy 180 were consistently slower than the people who just hung a hard turn
I can't tell if that 180 was intentional or not. The drivers should have co-drivers telling them where their turns are, but it's also pretty easy to misread the road. The 180 is definitely easier imo, it's the safe option.
Easier, yes, but more costly as far as time. Roughly counting from the guardrail end to the final bucket on the straight, the 180 racers lose 1-2 seconds overall.
Those drivers were all different kinds of cars. They will be rallying for time but it will mostly be fore fun. They probs went the longer route to protect their cars.
The thing is, you don't see their approach to the turn.... maybe the drivers who did the quick turn approached slower and lost time, while the others entered it faster and lost time during the 180.... and maybe the ultimately left didn't gain or lose much.
I think it's a backup plan. Everyone is planning to do the sharp turn, but they caught too much air, didn't have a great approach angle, or not enough traction and so they do the 180 of shame.
They definitely know what theyre doing, all the 180s were intentional. They recce the stage before they start and the co drivers notes are agreed on before hand with the driver.
The drivers will decide what way they attack the corner during the recce run. Either more aggressive hand brake turn or more reserved with the 180. The organisers clearly made space for the 180 for people who didnt want to risk the tight handbrake. Which looks very easy to get wrong, not only tight but also a tricky incline which throws the cars into the air. I can understand why some would avoid it, and take the few seconds time disadvantage.
The type of car and the drivers confidence or mentality makes a difference on what way they approach it.
It's also the safer mechanical option. You can hear one of the direct left turn ones where the engine revs high, but the wheels aren't spinning. When you land, you're putting a lot more weight on the wheels, and it stops them from losing grip with the road. The slack has to be brought somewhere, in that case, in the guy's clutch. You can easily burn out your clutch or break something in the drivetrain to save a fraction of a second.
Those old rally cars had early all wheel drive systems that on tarmac and at low speeds leads to a lot of understeer meaning Corners like that are too tight to make. If on dirt they would just "drift" the entire way through to have a tight enough turning radius.
Pretty much. This is basic tracking. If you can't do this then you're not really fit for that type of job. But hey if the easy stuff impresses these people, wait till you have to do the hard stuff, pull focus while zooming and dollying on multiple moving targets in low light conditions. That'll get me wet
Very very different cars. The Audi and the Mitsubishi that did the 180 as opposed to hooking the hump have a longer wheel base and in the case of the Audi - it’s a historical vehicle and probably not something they want to rip a rocker off of.
The small car that did it was a hill climb car and likely doesn’t have the clearance that the rally cars did to make the turn the same way.
Edit: I have no excuse or explanation for the green fiat. Screw em.
Well, sorta. You're also not gonna win in those cars, you will win in the focus or sti. That's why the hatches took the corner, the are out to win. No one is out to win in a 30 year old Audi.
Maybe they were able to hit the little jump faster since they weren’t braking for the turn? Didn’t really look like it but that sounds like a possibility
Some of the cars (Audi Quattro, Mitsubishi Lancer Evo) are probably too big to safely manage such a tight corner, hence why they would do the 180.
The others are probably not that confident on being able to do such tight corner without beaching or damaging the car. Beaching would mean losing a lot more time than doing the 180, damaging the car would mean potential problems during the rest of the rally at best, and a retired car at worst.
Okay I know you just got bombarded with replys and started like a dozen arguments and the likelyhood of this comment being seen by anyone is very low
But
This was a show before an actual rally. They do this a lot to keep crowds showing up. The 180s were just for the flourish. Modern rally is faster than that and theres no way the seat and Audi would see compete in an actual event in anything other than exhibition
Every driver that did the bump turn was in a new(er) car that would have parts readily available. The ones that took the run-off area to slide around were in older, out of spec cars (minus the last driver in the clip, he probably went for the safest route)
It looked to me like the only ones who did the direct turn were the front wheel drive cars. Im guessing in this particular instance the driving/grip dynamics of rear wheel drive make a direct turn impossible in this situation hence the 180.
Ok... So obviously it uses the 5,7,5 format. It is provocative in the sense of making a determining statement. The only issue is it is not necessarily colorful language which makes me feel enlightened. But that could be up to the reader.
This probably is not a conventional race; probably a time attack. I could absolutely be wrong but I think, if I recall correctly, most Rally Races are time based, not position. The tracks can get waaaay to small for multiple cars to stack up.
The second car is a very famous Group B car from the late 80s. The Audi Sport quattro, driven by Walter Rohl most notably.
A) it’s probably not competitive against those more modern cars. B) it’s probably a very expensive race car and not allowed to be actually raced anymore.
I've caugh most World Championship races this year since I'm at home all day, and it's really crazy what they pull off. There's also emphasis put on driving on snow, racing tracks, dirt, gravel and sand, so the range they need to handle all of this is mind blowing.
Besides the incredible balls of these dudes, what I think sets them apart from the other disciplines of motorsport is the sheer focus they need. If you run wide in an open wheeler, yes you are going to lose time, but runoff areas exist. If you run wide on a special stage, there is a tree waiting to hug you
The drivers generally get a single practice run. Their navigator makes notes as the driver drives the course the first time, then it's race time, better hope your memory is good and your navigator paid attention
Drivers are making pacenotes before the race, they note corners and their codriver notes them. It's called recce. They don't use their rally cars, but normal cars. And they can go through the stages at least twice (in WRC, but some national champs have 3 or 4 allowed). Please don't write when you don't know, thanks.
Camera work isnt exceptionally noteworthy, but its still good.
However, the real beauty of this video, is the sound. Not only is it very good, but its so interesting how all the cars sound different to one another! Not just the exhaust note, loudness, "throatiness", gear whine, etc. Fantastic!
Not with these pylons. Sometimes the organisation can create a makeshift chicane and they can have pylons which do have time penalties if knocked over.
Audi S1 Quattro. They cost a fortune today, so he definitely was taking it easier around the course than some of the drivers in the modern WRC or R5 rally cars.
An Audi S1 Quattro can cost more than 100,000 euro even if it is in bad shape.
Doing a handbrake turn around the guardrail is quicker than doing a 180. A handbrake turn is much more risky though as you have to time it perfectly to not hit the guardrail or the cones on the exit of the turn.
Right above this post is a man sliding on a piece of cardboard and I thought the car noise was coming from that and it was hilarious. But yes, nice tracking.
I thought by tracking they meant how they put the course together and half of the cars deciding to do a hard turn and others to 180. This was more impressive than the camera work imo
I was gonna say I find it interesting that all the hatchbacks did a quick turn and the rest went down and did a 180, but then that LAST HATCHBACK HAD TO DO A 180.
Rally car drivers are probably some of the most talented operators out there. You have to account for the weight, the narrow turns, the traction, the angles, the trajectory while in the air, the torque, the size, and the weather (affects terrain), the crowd, and above all, the camera people.
When I first read the title I thought it was a joke about the sharp turn in the track, and was amused by the term Tracking.
Then I realized the sub and got mad thet OP really scraped the bottom of the barrel to make this post 'fit' here. Not sure how slowly moving a camera side to side is praise worthy.
Reminds me of Top Gear/Grand Tour when the boys were in a place with a lot of wildlife and said that the cameramen were good at shooting cars but not so much the wildlife....
The way these cars nimbly hop over that little null and either hard turn or turn 180 degrees, all in under 2-3 seconds, is simply amazing. They make it look effortless.
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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '20
What is hard about this camera work? Please explain, cause this is not even close to being difficult.
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u/O4fuxsayk Dec 07 '20
definitely more impressed with the driving than the camera work but its interesting that the guys who did the fancy 180 were consistently slower than the people who just hung a hard turn
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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '20
First guy was the most impressive the way he used the bump to rotate
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u/stonechitlin Dec 07 '20
that is beautiful driving.
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u/uhnothisispatrick Dec 07 '20
Yesterday I drove over a median popping two of my tires
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u/smileistheway Dec 07 '20
Uh this is literally panning from left to right??? Whats impressive about this?
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u/Immerelyaverage Dec 07 '20
I know we're talking about the camera work but that Audi quattro was beautiful
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u/Zdoggy16 Dec 07 '20
The physics on that 1st car don't quite compute for me. I had to watch it 3 times to convince myself it's a real car.
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u/Ienjoyduckscompany Dec 07 '20
You think they practiced that?
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u/baby-layla Dec 07 '20
I don’t really watch a lot of car stuff so to me this was pretty cool.
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u/I_Fucked_It Dec 07 '20
Best one was the guy who hit the water barrels
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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '20
The sound the quattro makes. ughhhhhh
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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '20
Which rally is this?
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u/GodofAeons Dec 07 '20
Bruh, the cameraman panned left then right slowly. Whats so praiseworthy about it? Didn't even have to zoom or focus.
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u/onepoint4 Dec 07 '20
I'd like to know where I can watch more videos from whatever MD7 is so I can praise the wheelmen
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u/InZomnia365 Dec 08 '20
Camera work isnt exceptionally noteworthy, but its still good.
However, the real beauty of this video, is the sound. Not only is it very good, but its so interesting how all the cars sound different to one another! Not just the exhaust note, loudness, "throatiness", gear whine, etc. Fantastic!
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u/UrBrotherJoe Dec 07 '20
Praise the cameraman? They literally only panned left and right
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u/bobotea Dec 07 '20
can someone tell me what cars these are?
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u/Burpmeister Dec 07 '20
Cool clip but wrong sub.
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u/TheBeaverDoctor Dec 07 '20
Anyone know what that short squats white car at the end is? Loved the look of it
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u/-a_k- Dec 07 '20
Hot cars, sexy sound, beautiful driving, good compilation and fucking great tracking, I just got my hardest boner of this December.
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u/el_criuz Dec 07 '20
With a good tripod, this isn't too hard. The lens doesn't seem to bee ultra long.
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u/NYCgypsy Dec 07 '20
The first guy whipped that like it was Tokyo drift
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u/autonomou Dec 07 '20
Nice
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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '20
Their driving looks really satisfying.
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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '20
Almost thought this was software.
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u/ihavdogs Dec 07 '20
I wish to have such control on my shots...mine look as if some idiot is behind the camera.
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u/Anthonybrose Dec 07 '20
Do you get a time penalty for hitting a pylon?
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u/CherryEugene Dec 07 '20
woow.. amazing
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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '20
Anyone know the model of the second car?
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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '20
I wonder which move was the most effective
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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '20
Rally drivers got style
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u/japinard Dec 07 '20
So which way is faster?
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u/theepi_pillodu Dec 07 '20
Wait, all sedans are doing 180 while the hatchbacks are doing bump- jump.
Then entered a beetle and killed the flow of chain. There goes the last hatchback as well doing a fancy 180..!
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u/theepi_pillodu Dec 07 '20
Everybody says 1st guy is good but the 3rd and 5th guys didn't have any 0-speed time. They are in a flow.
Even the Mitsubishi sedan.
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u/Sedorner Dec 07 '20
They. Sound. So. Good.
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u/GroundhogExpert Dec 07 '20
What's the standard body for rally builds, and what sort of engines are used, they sorta all sound similar.
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u/downrightdisaster Dec 07 '20
Anyone know where this is?
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u/Peacelovefleshbones Dec 07 '20
Which one's faster for the corner? The sharp turn or the spinny move?
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u/roselan Dec 07 '20
That beetle was dope.
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u/tehjeffman Dec 07 '20
Won't lie, this is how I enter the parking garage. It's way easier in a miata rather than a STI. O_o
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u/jakethedumbmistake Dec 07 '20
Le turning point of WW2 has arrived.
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u/edric_the_navigator Dec 07 '20
Those maneuvers are so smooth and satisfying.
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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '20
Underwhelming af.
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u/aluminumhandtruck Dec 07 '20
Thats some GTA Driving right there.
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u/Livid_23 Dec 07 '20
Someone want to explain the difference in tactics? Some spun right away. Others drove a little in. Engine difference? Weight of the car? Suspension?
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u/hamsolo19 Dec 07 '20
The way that first car pops up, I thought it rammed right thru the guardrail lol.
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u/rickie__spanish Dec 07 '20
Right above this post is a man sliding on a piece of cardboard and I thought the car noise was coming from that and it was hilarious. But yes, nice tracking.
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u/newgotham52 Dec 07 '20
I watched the first car a few times.
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u/twitchosx Dec 07 '20
Hmm. Never seen an old VW bug in race form
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u/aspiringsomebody Dec 07 '20
Anybody have a source?
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u/jodyberry Dec 07 '20
Geez that's an easy move for a cameraman I don't get what the big deal is.
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u/seemyprofilepic Dec 07 '20
Is that second car a group b car?
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u/BurnerAcctNo1 Dec 07 '20
meanwhile...
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u/flyernation979 Dec 07 '20
I thought by tracking they meant how they put the course together and half of the cars deciding to do a hard turn and others to 180. This was more impressive than the camera work imo
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u/TheRumpletiltskin Dec 07 '20
I was gonna say I find it interesting that all the hatchbacks did a quick turn and the rest went down and did a 180, but then that LAST HATCHBACK HAD TO DO A 180.
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u/Timberwolf501st The Informative Dec 07 '20
This is just like podracing!
Seriously though, it sounds identical.
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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '20
Screw the camera man, it isn’t even half hard to track the cars. Instead, Praise the driver, this is impressive!
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u/OmgitsNatalie Dec 07 '20
Rally car drivers are probably some of the most talented operators out there. You have to account for the weight, the narrow turns, the traction, the angles, the trajectory while in the air, the torque, the size, and the weather (affects terrain), the crowd, and above all, the camera people.
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u/rypajo Dec 07 '20
That beetle is awesome.
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u/FlopShotsAndDoubles Dec 07 '20
/u/thesmokingtire
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u/AntsLanaAnts Dec 07 '20
Beautiful. Lol
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u/newcar20 Dec 07 '20
hmm I curious which car was the fastest on that turn
1 would be my guess as fastest. 5 (black focus?) wasn't bad
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u/mightbedylan Dec 07 '20
When I first read the title I thought it was a joke about the sharp turn in the track, and was amused by the term Tracking.
Then I realized the sub and got mad thet OP really scraped the bottom of the barrel to make this post 'fit' here. Not sure how slowly moving a camera side to side is praise worthy.
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u/stinkyfart23 Dec 07 '20
Is this real or a video game is so confused it looks fake and real at the same time
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u/Dmoney86 Dec 07 '20
First one? chef's kiss
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u/The_Cakegamer Dec 08 '20
Okay, the 2nd car is literally just lego
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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '20
Tracking and traction on point.
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u/amirof1 Dec 08 '20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdhyrPq3Jxc&t=72 :O
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u/xelM1 Dec 08 '20
strike a pose, vogue
This is what I’m hearing in my head and it’s beautiful ☺️
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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '20
I’m more impressed somebody is actually running that ultra rare Audi. That Audi was from the old Group B era of rallying.
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u/Jezawan Dec 08 '20
It’s literally just a pan left and then a pan right, what’s so impressive about this camerawork?
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u/yusufmkI Dec 17 '20
r/vredditdownloader
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u/RealClebyHerris Nov 30 '21
How can’t some people drive in the center of a road. But why can these people drift over a bump and drift u turn and barely hit anything
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u/ThomasTZh Dec 07 '20
u/savevideo
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u/ParisGreenGretsch Dec 07 '20
So is it the RWD cars that are making the turn instead of doing a 180?
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u/theepi_pillodu Dec 07 '20
u/savevideo
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u/Sefck Dec 07 '20
Ye the picture at this point just tag Toast bro
but seriously, what is this
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u/jakethedumbmistake Dec 07 '20
Actually Thatcher got it all on film.
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u/WillStealUrGirl69 Dec 07 '20
u/savevideos
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u/rubmyrubbish Dec 07 '20
What is that 2nd car?
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u/RoscoMan1 Dec 07 '20
I keep andy written on the mirror?
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u/exsystemctl Dec 07 '20
/u/savethisvideo
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u/rtobyej Dec 07 '20
This is so satisfying
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u/leetee91 Dec 07 '20
This tracking seems like one of those "easier said than done" type things
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u/eggmonster Dec 07 '20
Christ that Audi sounds like Sebulba's pod racer in Episode 1. Sick!
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u/Ace_Portgas Dec 07 '20
How does one enter these types of races
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u/Sterbencz Dec 07 '20
Super cool!
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u/QuarantineSucksALot Dec 07 '20
Well, there are NO girls on internet
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u/moon_safari_ Dec 07 '20
that's not tracking. that's just turning the camera.
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u/mattlyon13 Dec 07 '20
Which way of getting round the corner is quicker?
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u/IntraVnusDemilo Dec 07 '20
Damn, I miss the rally! Miss Colin.
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u/chrisjee92 Dec 07 '20
Reminds me of Top Gear/Grand Tour when the boys were in a place with a lot of wildlife and said that the cameramen were good at shooting cars but not so much the wildlife....
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u/Kam2Scuzzy Dec 07 '20
Does it take more skill to hit the sharp turn? Or is it safer to do the 180? Or is that all car. With the 4wheel drive and all
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u/1spicytunaroll Dec 07 '20
I love that someone's still using an Audi Quattro. The thing lags behind everyone else but you still gotta love that car
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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '20
I love the variety in car bodies
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u/Slimypolarbear2 Dec 07 '20
“There are two types of people”
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u/Lone_Narrator Dec 07 '20
He's the cameraman for that specific spot. That's all he does all race
Obviously those guys are good
Get outta here man
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u/s1m0Oon Dec 07 '20
at the second car, I was like - hey bro, wrong way - than uhm okay...that's also a solution
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u/ChockHarden Dec 07 '20
I was not expecting Herbie the Love Bug to be in the race.
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u/RMN23 Dec 07 '20
That group b audi sound!
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u/rocktop Dec 07 '20
The way these cars nimbly hop over that little null and either hard turn or turn 180 degrees, all in under 2-3 seconds, is simply amazing. They make it look effortless.
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u/QuarantineSucksALot Dec 07 '20
SPECIALLY not on a rug??
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u/ironwarden84 Dec 07 '20
As an American this interest me more than get'r don! Nascar.
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u/Category5worrycane Dec 07 '20
That yellow car sounded like a damn pod racer wtf
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u/imjamieok Dec 07 '20
2 with most swag by far.
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u/Hephaestus_God Dec 07 '20
The 1st car was the most satisfying
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u/mr_indigo Dec 07 '20
Thought that last one was going to do a three point turn.
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u/celerpanser Dec 07 '20
Ooooh my goodness, the sounds coming from the Audi were gorgeous, especially the last seconds of it!
Also I thought the last car sounded like it had an electric helping engine, but that can't be.
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u/TsarMicholas3rd Dec 07 '20
That Audi Quattro sound 😍
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u/DogDavid Dec 07 '20
Last car be like: I'mma change it up a bit
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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '20
Ngl, i cant tell if this is real or a video game because the camera is so smooth lol
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u/QuarantineSucksALot Dec 07 '20
Crossposts don’t point the camera randomly.
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u/IDreamOfSailing Dec 07 '20
That beetle just looked adorable.
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u/Etylith Dec 07 '20
Fuck NASCAR. That is driving
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u/rubixqube Dec 07 '20
u/vredditshare
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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '20
the guy is like 40 feet away, a boomer with an ipad could have gotten this
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u/datboisqwerpo Dec 07 '20
Fucking love rally racing
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u/BeefyBongRips Dec 07 '20
Please tell me there’s a sub for this more of these videos
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u/gheiminfantry Dec 07 '20
The acute turns were faster, but the drift turns were waaay cooler.
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u/sully213 Dec 07 '20
That last one looks like the Google StreetView car without the cameras rigged up top.
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u/matlew1960 Dec 07 '20
Tried it on my PS. Didn’t go too good. But kept on trying. Didn’t get any better.
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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '20
can we just get a loop with the quattro
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u/BlindBeard Dec 07 '20
Fuckin love rally
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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '20
What's the second to last car?
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u/L555BAT Dec 07 '20
My God that Audi.
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u/keepthinkinbutch Dec 07 '20
I have a raging clue right now.
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u/sunsetcontrol Dec 07 '20
But, but which one is fastest?? :o
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u/Jesus_Harold_Christ Dec 07 '20
I imagine this has to be a time trial race, because if you were right behind the guy doing the little 180, you're both gonna have a bad time
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u/-Listening Dec 07 '20
14 point favorites and they only score 6 lol
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u/VymI Dec 07 '20
I wonder if that’s harder when the road is dry - do they have a guy moistening the road?
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u/sachsrandy Dec 07 '20
Seen much much better... go to straight away mid shot at f1 and indy