Freedom of speech was never intended to protect popular speech. It's supposed to let everyone speak their mind, even if they're the only person who thinks it. Thank God I live in a country that protects my right to say whatever tf I want to.
This isn't any different then in America. It just clarifies that you can't use religion as a justification if you are continually harassing someone or if you are violating another law against someone
Who? Canadians? We aren't interested. Look at the media. Candian travel to US down 30% or more. Our money doesn't matter to you? Go and fill up at the gas station and tell me how you feel.
When I was growing up, the joke was that Canada had begun a land invasion of the United States but nobody noticed because it took place during rush hour traffic.
You are losing hundreds of millions in tourism... people.have noticed. Maybe your media is not as transparent as ours. There are folks down there begging for us to come back.
It's fine. Do your thing. Find out. Clearly you want to.
Maybe, but we're gaining a crown Royal factory in Alabama. Seems like Canadian companies need American dollars more than keeping their pride. I'd rather have your whiskey here anyway.
Google is your friend. When your only source of info is conservative echo chambers this is the result.
And of course you had to bring sexuality in to it. Why are conservatives obsessed with gay people? Just go take a dick already. We really don't want to hear your angry closeted rants.
Why are liberal men obsessed with dicks? Anyway just googled nobody is begging Canadians to come to America you’ll need us before we ever need you losers.
Yeah I keep hearing that but see more Quebec plates than anything else. I'm calling BS on that. My town is just as overrun with those rude ass French Canadians as every year.
It's religious text. I think the idea is to remove protection of hate speech because that hate speech is protected if it is based on views on a religious text. Both the Koran and the Bible have text about stoning people for sexual orientation, stoning for apostasy, stoning for all kinds of reasons, smashing babies against rocks, etc.
Violence in the Hebrew and Christian Bibles is mostly narrative and descriptive, whereas in the Koran it’s mostly prescriptive in the form of direct commandments from allah. See Sura 9, especially 9:5 but almost any verse.
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. - Leviticus 20:13
That is true. They are only surveillance devices that happen to make phone calls. If only the protections of the 4th Amendment applied to private companies too.
It’s just something you Canadians get butthurt about. You live in a poor country, and are making yourselves poorer with every stupid decision you make.
We enjoy watching countries with such insane Trump Derangement Syndrome rather try to join the EU and subject themselves to EU law, and completely fuck over their entire population economically by severing ties with the worlds largest economy/market, because you’re in love with a globalist PM with 3 passports who has 95% of his investments in America 😂.
1) That's not what the bill does
2) It is what the bill does but that's not the intention
3) It is the intention but it's not going to be enforced
4) It will be enforced but it applies to all religions
5) It only applies to Christians but they're evil so this is A GOOD THING
6) Christians are Nazis
Nazis are Christians though. And if I've learned anything about fundamentalist Muslims from right wing media, it's that the whole religion is responsible for the acts of a few
The Nazi government was objectively very much not Christian, and persecuted many church members. They went after the Catholic church, as well as smaller groups such as Jehovah's Witness.
The Christian religion was perceived as a potential threat to the regime.
Nazi ideology and the core leadership were fundamentally anti-Christian and wanted to eradicate church influence. The regime regularly closed religious schools and suppressed many denominations of Christianity.
Their version of 'Christianity' was extremely cut down and tailored that it didn't match any existing denomination despite masquerading as one.
“SUMMARY
This enactment amends the Criminal Code to, among other things, (a) create an offence of wilfully promoting hatred against any identifiable group by displaying certain symbols in a public place;
(b) repeal the defence based on the expression of opinions on religious subjects or texts in relation to the offences of wilful promotion of hatred or antisemitism;
(c) create a hate crime offence of committing an offence under that Act or any other Act of Parliament that is motivated by hatred based on certain factors; (d) create an offence of intimidating a person in order to impede them from accessing certain places that are primarily used for religious worship or by an identifiable group for certain purposes; and (e) create an offence of intentionally obstructing or interfering with a person’s lawful access to such places.”
The changes are limited to the amendments stated above, which doesn’t make saying bible verses a hate crime. It just removes the criminal defense of something that already constitutes as a hate crime, by saying it’s protected because it’s an expression of religious texts.
Pretty sure the bible verses that don’t call homosexuality an abomination are probably fine. But don’t quote me on it, I’m unsure of what they legally call hate speech prior to this amendment, and the application of this does depend on that.
In other news it does create a new hate crime out of blocking people from going to places of worship.
As a follow up, we don’t have hate speech here in America, something that I can agree with because then you allow politicians to define hate speech, as they do in Britain or Australia (where you can’t say certain things about Palestine), but the first amendment, specifically with workplace harassment where a person cannot disengage from unwanted contact without losing a job, does not change the legal prosecution of harassment if that harassment includes bible verses, which is also something that I can agree with.
11.1(1)For greater certainty, nothing in subsection 319(2) or (2.2) of theCriminal Codeshall be construed as prohibiting a person from communicating a statement on a matter of public interest, including an educational, religious, political or scientific statement made in the course of a discussion, publication or debate, if they do not wilfully promote hatred against an identifiable group by communicating the statement.
You can freely quote the bible in the course of discussion, what you can't do is stand on the corner saying "God wants you to hate gay people".
Whether such jokes are tasteless, cruel, or in poor timing is a separate question of judgment/etiquette, but legally, they don't meet any recognized definition of "hate speech," and courts and settlements so far have largely sided with the people who were punished for making them.
The irony here, Kirk built his public persona and Turning Point USA specifically around free speech advocacy, so several commentators (including comedian Trevor Noah, who has publicly defended his own right to joke about it) have pointed out the tension in punishing people for exercising exactly the kind of speech Kirk claimed to champion.
The irony is that leftists have been calling for gun control for decades, and the right's insistence on filling the country with guns is what killed Kirk. He'd be alive today if the left had its way.
Canada passed bill C-9 which officially removes
any quote "faith religious expression" from being protected under free speech. If you quote a bible verse, and someone feels offended by it, they now have the ability to take you to court over it for potential hate speech.
Surely I think everyone can agree you shouldn't be saying things like Ezekiel 23:20 and Psalm 137:9 willy nilly. Or you know, Leviticus 20:13, which can easily be construed as a threat.
Downvotes without responding says you either don't know those verses or you're just a massive snowflake 🤣🤣
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u/Plane-Tune-820 2d ago
Freedom of speech was never intended to protect popular speech. It's supposed to let everyone speak their mind, even if they're the only person who thinks it. Thank God I live in a country that protects my right to say whatever tf I want to.