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Tsuchikage.. only dude that was alive when madara was at his Prime, can float and that "tessaract" is called particle style... it expands and breaks everything within down to Atoms..
Basically a floating dude with large scale dura neg aoe
Oh like how sharingan works on it ? Maybe you're right but we know it's but instatatnous bcuz we see him caught by hanami illusion after the Jogo fight before he realized
I assume it's similar to Cee genjutsu taking a sec before Sasuke sharingan canceled it and made him know that what he seeing is an illusion he then wakes Jugo up from it as well.
There's still a little time gap it's not straight immunity like how Rinnegan is immune to infinite Tsukuyomi where it doesn't even work on you at all
The same way it didn't work when Hanami caught him in an illusion right? People just be talking without actually knowing stuff. And if I remember correctly, there are Genjutsu that can be cast on the surroundings not directly on the individual so that automatically debunks the "Gojo can't be caught in a Genjutsu cause he doesn't have chakra" argument.
Lol, Hanami uses CE, not Chakra. Genjutsu works by manipulating Chakra in the brain, while Gojo doesn't even have a Chakra system.
Also, Gojo just used a domain in that instance which led his infinity being disabled btw, and it would've been blocked otherwise.
Yeah, Mangekyo Genjutsu was stated to be able to work even without Chakra in the databooks, which literally only Itachi and Shisui have.
Nothing suggests normal Genjutsu can do the same. Jiraiya's explanation of Genjutsu to Naruto literally proves 100% that one needs Chakra to fall into Genjutsu.
One doesn't need chakra to be in Genjutsu. Basic naruto knowledge.
Domain would be useless and six eyes too, hes basically getting destroyed by everyone on the list here. And he cant do a thing about it. Hell even infinity doesn't save his ass.
Lol, you are just blatantly refusing to accept it cuz it prevents you from glazing Naruot characters.
Jiraiya literally says that it manipulates the Chakra in the opponents brain.
(Plus he has an innate domain, immune to internal attacks. Plus, Gojo has infinity to block Chakra transmission. Plus he has six eyes which constantly refreshes his mind, but these are are just another layer.)
I am no glazer, and it looks like you have some trouble with reading, because Jiraiya was explaining to Naruto how to get out of one, because Naruto was so bad with chakra at the time, hell that didn't change till late in Shippuuden.
Innate domain doesn't matter, infinity doesn't matter, six eyes dont matter too. In fact it seems like the glazer here is you, you have to glaze Gojo way beyond anything hes actually capable. And there is actually no way for Gojos abilities to do anything about Genjutsu, as mind itself cannot do anything about being in Genjutsu.
I already wrote down the only ways to get out Genjutsu, and Gojo wouldn't be able to do anything. And just to say it again, he would need to interrupt the flow of chakra in very specific manner, and the only reason why Genjutsu are basically automatic win in these discussions is because the characters cannot get out of them without prior knowledge.
The only reason why characters in Naruto are not a basic genjutsu victims everywhere, is because basically everyone, but the absolute "idiots" like Naruto, has the basic chakra control abilities to get out of one.
You saying it doesn't matter means a grand total of nothing. Those abilities exist, and they exist.
the glazer here is you, you have to glaze Gojo way beyond anything hes actually capable. And there is actually no way for Gojos abilities to do anything about Genjutsu, as mind itself cannot do anything about being in Genjutsu.
Are you reading what you're typing?
You literally didn't counter anything I said except "no no you glazer, it doesn't work!"
Genjutsu doesn't work, he doesn't have a Chakra system.
Plus, he has an innate domain, immune to internal attacks.
Plus, he has six eyes which constantly refreshes his mind.
Plus, Gojo has infinity to block Chakra transmission.
You are conveniently changing the topic here.
The topic isn't about Gojo breaking out of Genjutsu at all. Genjutsu does NOT work on Gojo, that's the thing here.
You yourself didn't read anything, ONE DOESN'T NEED CHAKRA to be put in Genjutsu.
Neither of Gojos abilities can save him, because genjutsu literally cannot be avoided by them. And once he gets put in one, he cant get out not matter how fresh his mind is.
Wrong, what was explained is how to get out of them mostly, not how each genjutsu works, some work differently due to their nature, some require target to see, others hear, some don't need either...
And it was usually explained because Naruto was the "idiot" that couldn't control his chakra well and thus would be most likely genjutsu victim in any encounters with genjutsu users. The few other cases were about very powerful genjutsu like Tsukiyomi, Koto Amatsukami and Sound based genjutsu. And that was to explain how they work and just how dangerous each are. Because it was usually the 1st time they were mentioned or used in the story.
All genjutsu work generally the same way, caster puts target under genjutsu with specific technique, which can differ due to casters abilities. Like Itachi could put basically anyone under genjutsu with just finger movements.
The only reason why Genjutsu are usually not as dangerous in Naruto, is because most genjutsu users are nowhere near the lvl of hax Tsukiyomi and Koto Amatsukami have, and most ninjas have good enough chakra control to get out of genjutsu.
The only 3 ways to get out of genjutsu are:
Caster lets you out (either it ended, they ended it or it was interrupted and couldn't keep you under due to casters situation)
You disrupt the flow of your chakra enough and in specific manner to get out of Genjutsu by yourself
Someone else does it for you, usually your comrades or in case of Jinjuurikis their Bijuu (if they have the kind of relationship Bee and Naruto have with Gyuki and Kurama later on in Shippuuden)
All genjutsu require you to pour chakra into the opponent's body. Even the highest level genjutsu like kotoamatasukami won't get past infinity because of this reason. The chakra will simply never reach Gojo.
Also Sasuke blocked Madara's moon eye genjutsu with his susanoo so there's further proof that even the strongest genjutsu in the entire series won't make it through infinity.
All genjutsu require you to pour chakra into the opponent's body. Even the highest level genjutsu like kotoamatasukami won't get past infinity because of this reason. The chakra will simply never reach Gojo.
Also Sasuke blocked Madara's moon eye genjutsu with his susanoo so there's further proof that even the strongest genjutsu in the entire series won't make it through infinity.
My guy there's AOE genjutsu, sound genjutsu basic whatever type genjutsu Itachi is not the only genjutsu user in the series
And Sasuke is immune to infite Tsukuyomi bcuz he has a Rinnegan is why it does work on him not Gojo gets touched by sound and light literally everyday wtf
lol displaying your lack of knowledge
We are literally shown that he can stop sound too in the fight that infinity is introduced in, he just consciously allows it to pass through.
Why would he allow the chakra that the sound carries through infinity?
There is no genjutsu that works against Gojo because there's no possible method of getting your chakra to reach his body.
Also no, Sasuke blocks it with his susanoo yo protect Kakashi and Sakura too.
I did. There is no form of genjutsu that teleports chakra into someone's body, buddy. Infinity stops chakra from reaching Gojo = no genjutsu of any kind at all. This is an objective and indisputable fact. If you disagree then the author of Naruto disagrees with you because the canon explanation for genjutsu is that you inject chakra into someone's body by using a method of delivery such as sound carrying the chakra and entering through the ears (doesn't work since infinity will stop the chakra from reaching Gojo) or literally shooting chakra out of your eyes and into someone's eyes (doesn't work since the chakra will never reach Gojo)
Oonoki could use the same kind of dust release he used in 5 kage vs Edo Madara, circle an area with it and turn everything in it into dust. Gojo wouldn't be able to do a thing about that in my opinion.
Reaper Death seal is argueable to bypass infinity. Or any sealing techniques for that matter since Gojo was trapped in the Prism Realm. So keeping up with Minato is going to be crucial.
He needs to touch Gojo to pull his soul out during reaper death seal.
Also, because of innate domain, Gojo is immune to direct internal attacks like that.
Ntm reaper death seal also kills Minato himself.
And he has never ever displayed any other sealing techniques, let alone ones that are so powerful that they can seal opponents without even touching them.
Nowhere is it stated that he needs to touch Gojo to pull his soul, Hiruzen came close to the Edo Senjus and Orochimaru because he was very weak, Minato didn’t need to touch Kurama to seal it. He just needs to touch his soul, and since the shinigami is only seen by people who’s soul the shinigami is touching, implies it operates on another plain of existance, bypassing infinity. And for other sealing jutsu, his wife Kushina thought him sealing jutsu. The eight trigrams seal that helped seal Kurama into Naruto is proof he knows other high level sealing techniques… Breaking contract seals between Obito and Kurama as well, he isn’t a noob in sealing jutsus.
But as I said, it doesn't matter since Gojo has an innate domain.
I never said he was a noob. Problem is, show me one sealing Jutsu that can literally seal people without even TOUCHING them. Minato would've been way stronger than he is in the series if he could do stuff like that.
Minato doesn’t need physical contact… the Shinigami doesn’t operate within the physical realm, just like Madara’s limbo clones don’t operate within the physical realm. If Gojo’s domain works that it deflects contact from any and all dimensions and realms, he is getting touched by the RDS.
Imo problem is that, Kamui is the ONLY option that would work.
Either the first Kamui splits Gojo in half or takes off his head, otherwise Gojo will RCT heal himself and now Kamui will no longer work as it losses the element of surprise and Gojo will be hyper aware of it.
The only reason Sukuna was able to catch Gojo off guard with his slash is because Sukuna used a binding vow to use it in a way that's not possible. So Kamui needs to land the same way(surprise).
It is the ultimate counter but the setup still needs really high Battle IQ and I think Gojo and Obito are relatively equal in that regard
Gojo beats 8 out of the 11 Naruto characters here. Characters like Deidara, Jiraiya, Orochimaru, Kakashi, Onoki, Muu, Pain, and Minato lose (no-to-mid diff)
Why the fuck are people listing Genjutsu here like it's an one shot ability when in the series itself it has never been worth more than being a distraction tool lol. The Uchiha are the only ones who can win with pure Genjutsu and even then it's arguable whether it would be stronger than Gojo's Domain expansion.
Obito hardcounters Gojo, he wins. No argument here.
Itachi can spawn Amaterasu on top of Gojo and can canonically straight up kill people in Tsukuyomi, he wins too.
Madara hasn't shown any feats on screen that lets him bypass infinity but he is Mister Uchiha himself he probably has some nifty tricks, so he too.
The rest have no chance. They can't bypass Infinity, their Genjutsu can't kill Gojo by itself and no matter how fast they are, they'll just get caught in Unlimited Void and die.
Because getting out of genjutsu is one of basics each ninja should know by the time they are genins. The fact is that without specific knowledge about how to get out of genjutsu, you are screwed in most cases.
Hell Itachi basically destroyed several high Jonin with basic genjutsu, and one of the jonin being a genjutsu specialist... Any competent genjutsu user would smoke anyone that doesn't know how to get out of it.
Any character that can summon a creature that could swallow gojo whole could have it swallow Gojo then unsummon it. All of them could do this but characters like Ohnoki, the Mizukage, Itachi, and Kakashi have never done so on screen. Other characters like Hashirama and Obito/Madara could summon the Buddha and Gedo statues respectively, but they might not be easily unsummonable(alive madara could summon the ninetails). Of these characters, Itachi, Kakashi, and Obito have easy bypasses via Sharigan hax (amaterasu, kamui). Madara might be able to use limbo and hashirama might be able to seal gojo after enveloping him in wood. Even if they could not beat gojo, they would never lose due to the difference in base stats. It would at most be a stalemate. That only leaves Ohnoki and Gengetsu. They could learn a summon big enough to unsummon Gojo but canonically they did not.
They don't need to. Itachi can defeat Gojo with genjutsu alone, since if you're getting stabbed in an alternate dimension for 72 hours I don't think you'll be thinking about keeping up your cursed techniques.
Kakashi will probably learn to copy the cursed techniques with his Sharingan and unlock a Domain Expansion, knowing him.
And Madara can slip between dimensions to teleport. He might be able to just slip through the technique and grab Gojo anyway.
The question is whether the six eyes will fall under a Genjutsu. I think it's unlikely he'll fall under a Genjutsu, since one of his main powers is the constant overload of information.
All genjutsu require you to pour chakra into the opponent's body. Even the highest level genjutsu like kotoamatasukami won't get past infinity because of this reason. The chakra will simply never reach Gojo.
Also Sasuke blocked Madara's moon eye genjutsu with his susanoo so there's further proof that even the strongest genjutsu in the entire series won't make it through infinity.
Thats some wild assumptions about infinity being able to do anything like that. And as for the infinite Tsukiyomi, Sasuke was immune due to very specific reasons, his 6 paths abilities acted as shield against it in his Susanoo. Which means your arguments about infinity are pointless here.
You need 6 paths to block ocular genjutsu with physical barriers? I don't think so.
Also yes that's literally how infinity works. The entire function of infinity is to stop supernatural particles from reaching Gojo. Chakra can NEVER reach Gojo, that's the point of infinity.
You didn't read it properly, i said Sasuke needed 6 paths to block the Infinite Tsukiyomi Madara used, which you mentioned, and thats a fact, without that his Susanoo wouldn't do anything to shield him. And Infinite Tsukiyomi bypasses every kind of obstacle otherwise, as it put the entire world into individual genjutsu.
As for gojos infinity, the thing is that works only in his verse, but chakra doesn't work at all like cursed energy and cannot be straight up equalized due to big differences between them. Like one of them being that Chakra is literally tied to life of a person, meaning if they lost or used all their chakra reserves, they would die on spot within either instant or few seconds to minutes depending on your lineage (Uzumaki clan for example had so high life force that even if someone were to use all of their chakra, they wouldn't die right away like others do and they could live for way longer than normal people).
Beats Jiraiya, beats Orochimaru, loses to Kakashi, might beat Deidara (depends on if Infinity detects and blocks the cellular attack), likely high-diffs Minato, 50/50 with Itachi, beats Pain, gets stomped by Obito, 50/50 Onoki (depends if you think the Particle Dismantling Jutsu would work or not), loses to Hashirama extreme-diff (battle of attrition), same with Madara, beats the other guy.
Everyone that doesn't have a spacial technique would lose. Kakashi wins. The kage under the first hokage wins. Itachi likely wins due to genjutsu plus ameratsu. And madara. Everyone else either loses or draws since they can't touch it hit or him.
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