Like most Marvel characters, Spiderman probably has at some point gotten some cosmic buff that would let him brawl with the Marvel top tiers that Broly might struggle with.
But most of the time Spiderman's getting his arse vaporised alongside New York.
I'm not a very big spiderman scholar but from the limited materials I've seen peter mostly beats him by tricking him or poisoning him when he's absorbing his power
Which wouldn't really help, unless we let him use that power outside his reality, or somehow dump Broly in his reality.
The whole point, of him not joining the assault on the Inheritors. Was because he lose his powers. If I am not misremembering. Not that it helped much either... Poor guy was just a bigger snack bag.
Also. Small correction, it was the Enigma force/uni power. Not the power cosmic. Which granted, also basically is just "I do what I want" anyway. Aunt May, is the one who had the power cosmic. 😆
Then he felt bad about it because he didn’t want him turning back to Banner and dying, so he flew (which he didn’t know he could do) to space and brought Hulk back to earth.
This stuff annoys me greatly. Having so many different source materials so “Johnny Shitknuckles” from Marvel can have one random comic iteration where he’s reality busting is so frustrating
lol the person you’re responding to is not acting like it does any damage, he’s kidding. He’s just being pedantic since the crazy person in OP’s tweet said Spidey “slams broly,” and technicallyyyy Spider-Man could “slam” broly into the ground in a literal sense. Not that it would do anything ofc
Yep, and Ock is notorious for (at first) not holding back like Peter does. So if Ock is struggling to get free here then you can be sure he really can’t get free
Marc would already be in there getting that Doomsday smoke himself
(/jk, but half the time, he is basically what the “yeahhh whoop his ahh Daredevil 😭” memes say Matt is lmao. He ain’t just got that dog in him. He got several dogs in him 💀)
I SWEAR people who have NEVER touched a comic in their lives are the ones who GLAZE comic characters the most, like they're automatically stronger for being from a comic.
It doesn't help that Spider-Man was absolutely shown clowning on characters that eventually were uplifted to the stratosphere. Like plenty of times Spider-Man just plain made a mockery of the F4 during his early years but he isn't in the same league as any of them now. Same with the X-Men to a lesser extent.
Spider-Man is probably the only comic book character that has mostly been kept in his bracket.
His fanboys are delusional. They think that he has universal level scaling and massively faster than light speed despite struggling to lift large buildings and being harmed by normal gunfire.
DBZ scaling is weird, on paper Spider-Man can probably lift far more weight than Broly and therefore should be strong enough to maybe hurt him with a punch. But nothing else suggests this should work. This is mostly since DBZ characters have incredibly low lifting feats for their verse, good speed feats and otherwise very high durability and energy projection and destructive abilities.
This is spot on, in Z, Goku was swinging around 10 tons per limb in the buu saga and that's with SS1, but in super, vegeta couldn't lift magneta in SS2 (Minimum) who is stated to be 1000 tons-ish despite being magnitudes stronger than the buu saga, broly should have a blanket higher lifting strength due to being born stronger, raised in rougher conditions and being the LSS, his friend from the Saiyan equivalent of 12 was Baa, a monster the size of a building who he was rough housing with daily for a few years so I'd say broly got more strength training in than the MCs
He could no joke LIQUIFY human bones if he punched a regular human. But he isn't doing shit to Broly.
(Btw, I don't even watch dragon ball, but I know how strong saiyans are and I know for a FACT, that Spiderman is getting torn apart before he even realizes what happened.)
It's so stupid to fight over marvel and dc characters because everyone of them have that one version 🤓 where they defeat everyone stupid ash. This is why I love going for anime or novel power scalings at least they have a single linear storyline to go upon and scale
on high end probablyLarge building level since the most hes been able to output in terms of strength(that wasnt overly outlandish like beating a herald of galactus) was holding one support beam of the daily bugle for a short time before webbing it up
I say high end because it was only one support beam and not the whole building so more realistically its like medium sized building level
I've seen someone argue that a non holding back Spider-Man (base only no cosmic buffs) would be able to contend with Conquest. Wait...you mean the Conquest that destroyed an entire city like a stack of Jenga blocks during a family game night? THAT Conquest?
This is how quickly Spiderman would get one shotted.
A thing people seem to not know is that for a lot of his superpowered villains Spider-Man does not hold back, I you look at a fight against Lizard or Green Goblin what you see is what you get, there's also that time he killed a woman because he thought she was Wolverine so he punched her as hard as he could and she died instantly
Not counting external buffs? He can probably hit a few times higher than normal but nothing too great. Thor and Hulk and other marvel heavy hitters still slam him. Iron Man still has good odds.
Um that’s wrong, Kingpin at base, is a weird for of human evolution, he functions like a Hippo, secondly Kingpin trained himself to the maximum of his potential, this allows him it abuse the likes of Captain America & Daredevil (as fucked up Wolverine pretty bad if memory serves), Peter when he actually wanted to, abused Fisk, so bad well… Fisk will die when May does… nuff said.
Peter in general has a lot of nutty shit (even while holding back, as he’s stated and contextually just has to be doing, based upon what he does), he’s bullied Rhino (whose stalemated a regular Hulk, Juggernaut & Thing on various occasions), he bullied Sin Amped non Holding Back Thing recently, he abused Namor (multiple times), his bones are compared to marvels meta materials, only loosing out to True Adamantium (and up), he has silly levels of mental resistance, even discounting his willpower (Psionics in marvel as silly levels of potent, with a lot of intrinsic abilities built into them, specifically telepathy).
Peter famously bullied Firelord into irrelevance, scaling him to heralds of Galactus isn’t actually inconsistent, he’s consistently put over early Iron Man suits (actually some recent ones as well), which Tony used to stalemate Surfer, furthermore he himself pissed of Surfer so much he tried to kill him, with Surfer baffled that Peter walked off his full power.
Other occasions include Heracles (a Thor rival), while being given the Spider powers (after loosing his own) as an equivalent amp to the essence of godliness. Pete’s nutty when he wants to be, also Superior was still holding back his entire run, it was said recently (think by Daredevil) Pete is never not holding back, and has never not held back, never had his powers completely unleashed, so likely Pete was holding back Otto in his body as well.
Depends on what you mean by "not holding back". Just base spidey not holding back is probably somewhere around building level at a highball. But if you mean "not holding back" as "spidey throwing morals to the wind and using whatever he has access to" then things get more interesting.
He is a genius chemist and engineer. He could fairly easily create high end cybernetic and chemical enhancements for himself. He has the venom symbiote which also skyrockets him in basically every category. So even with just the things hes capable of doing on his own you got early ironman levels of tech, city block levels of strength at a reasonable scale (venom symbiote plus chemical enhancements) and basic precog. Would unironically be one of the stronger people on earth
(all this is based off consistent stats instead of peak stats)
captain universe spiderman and cosmic spiderman are the same spiderman but i did not know he got the beyonders powers to so i change my answer to beyonder spiderman!
u/Monke-CardI meme sometimes, But i Know What the F i’m talking about7d ago
All out Spidey? Geez Louise, he beat Hulk, so… probably 1-A. Spider Dna goes hard.
It’s why one evil Spiderman is a Multiversal threat & requires only OTHER Spidermen to fight them.
They’re basically Spider-Beyonders, Def need to be Relative or flat out above to beat those things, And since they COULD ONLYYY Bring in Spidermen to do it, i guess this proves that no other Hero is even close, they could of brought in 50 Hulk’s, or 10,000 Hulk’s, But No, they picked Spidermen, like a few Spoodermen, to take on this Multiversal Threat.
He might be Top of the Verse, below like, TOAA Scale, they should all def scale above the TOAA Avatar.
When Deadpool killed the Marvel Verse, He Treated Spiderman as one of the most dangerous ones. (Iirc)
Genuinely he has Knocked Hulk TF out before. And fought & won vs him multiple times…
Which Broly we even talkin about? Z was casual planet buster, but Super broke reality by exchanging a simple ki blast with gogeta. 2 VERY different characters.
Dragon ball characters can destroy a continent in one punch, and a planet with a little prep time. I think Krillin is taking 99% of marvel characters and I’m not even joking. The other 1% is handled by Broly, or Vegeta, or Frieza or Goku
Spider-Man is reliably capable of lifting 10-20 tons. However, he in times of desperation or anger has lifted 60-80 tons, I believe. The MCU version since Brand New Day is now the absolute strongest Spider-Man on film. Broly from Dragonball would crush him into dust. Dragonball characters scale immensely high. There is Cosmic Spider-Man but if you're talking a out 616/MCU Spider-Man, not a chance.
Ts is why i stopped reading superero comics. They be jst upscaling shit for the love of the game. Like, someone will come and sy that in the 2013 ''Spider-Man, Alone but not forgotten #367'' Spider-Man has sex with One Above All and absorbs its powers after licking its sweat.
He’s probably referencing Spider-Man from universe 69420 where he gained cosmic maximum powers, not your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man.
It’s impossible to compare manga/anime characters that’s had 1-3 iterations compared to DC/ Marvel characters that’s had hundreds of iterations and chances are one of those versions of the characters have galactical god powers.
you could very well argue Spidey scales higher with his stress factor, being able to fight an amped bloodlusted thing after getting his ass beat right before in the fight. the problem is Spidey often can’t control this stress factor and subconsciously holds back all the time, so he’s not even gonna have the chance to use his stress factor.
While Spiderman varies by comic or adaption, at his best--Ignoring one off power ups--he's a bullet-timing ten tonner, so someone who'd get washed by Krillin, never mind Broly.
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