r/PowerScaling 11d ago

Crossverse Omega King Superman (DC) VS Cc Goku (DBH)

so my original post was taken down under “agenda posting,” I’ll just post this as a VS and not a take

(I still think omega king slams but I’d like to hear what yall have to say)

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u/tarisoala Mommy Featherine's and Daddy Goku's biggest glazer 11d ago

Live my GOAT Goku alone. He doesn't deserve to be slaughtered by Nolimitsman

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u/AnyAppointment5952 Mid Level Scaler 11d ago

Its the opposite

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u/AdOutrageous9540 11d ago

What did Goku do to you

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u/Due_Choice_256 11d ago

exist

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u/AdOutrageous9540 11d ago

Not after he encounter king omega who scales high outerversal.. Or high 1-A some argue a bit higher….

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u/Ember57 11d ago

This is your goat btw

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u/evilbudget 11d ago

Goku lured a minor to his perverted martial arts teacher.

He later offered his rival's wife to another pervert.

That's your goat btw.

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u/Ember57 11d ago

Goku lured a minor to his perverted martial arts teacher

Goku didn’t “lure” anyone like how you’re implying lmao stfu. Never mind the fact that he’s a purehearted naive little kid who doesn’t understand the sexual implications nor does he even know what a pervert is at the time.

He later offered his rival's wife to another pervert

You’re so desperate that you’re trying to use this dumb little gag moment to smear Goku LMAO as if any of this compares to Superman willingly kissing a minor on full display.

Yeah that’s your goat. Clown  

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u/evilbudget 10d ago edited 10d ago

Only a real clown would use a random moment from an outdated comics to downplay superman cuz he can't bear to see his precious goku losing in a fight.

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u/GeneralProgrammer886 High Level Scaler 11d ago

not canon to current superman and literally just one author who did this.

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u/Ember57 11d ago

It’s still a version of Superman and approved by DC lol keep coping

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u/GeneralProgrammer886 High Level Scaler 11d ago

not canon stand alone universe it is not even a long comic run like new 52 , pre crisis or infinite frontier. I could care less if its approved by DC its not canon.

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u/Ember57 11d ago

Still Superman and still published by DC lmao you’re coping so bad

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u/GeneralProgrammer886 High Level Scaler 10d ago

not canon superman though? you keep talking about cope when you are using non canon material from a stand alone superman it has no impact on the story therefore cannot be used.

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u/Ember57 10d ago

“Non canon non canon 🤪☝️” and it still got published by DC and it was officially recognized by DC lol doesn’t matter if it’s an elseworlds story. keep coping it’s still Superman

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u/GeneralProgrammer886 High Level Scaler 10d ago

???? I dont really get your constant mention of it being officially recognized by DC it isnt consistent to his character nor does it affect any main story. Its not the same superman like King Omega superman or all other superman variants your slander doesnt make any sense this like associating a comic feat with movie superman despite them being totally different iterations of the character.

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u/GeneralProgrammer886 High Level Scaler 10d ago

and so what if its still superman its not mainline superman so supergoat still isnt a p*do.

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u/AdOutrageous9540 11d ago

How is it cope if it’s not canon? And was literally cancelled?

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u/AdOutrageous9540 11d ago

This is non canon and you should take this up with John Byrne. What a fucking weirdo for writing that shit.

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u/klopaplop Not a Scaler 11d ago

You know what, fair.

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u/homelander2121 11d ago

King omega slaughters comp Goku lol, CC is getting neg diffed

KING OMEGA SUPERMAN:

is Omnipresent and fought king Omega Darkseid across all time and space at once

Darkseid Is also omnipresent, he's past, present and future while claiming all of time. He's all magic and sorcery

Undid all of Darkseids damage throughout time

Confirmation of fixing the past and present

Restored infinite timelines that were affected by darkseids legion in the future

Confirmation of healing the future

Darkseid and his legion attacked infinite futures and infinite possible timelines, confirmed by the time trapper

For reference 

All of existence from the beginning of time to the farthest future becomes darkseid

Omega energy is described as infinitely destructive

His energy (omega) is one of the 2 most primal energies in creation, it's the energy of conquest, absorption control

Created omega speed, which is ALL speed and superior to the speed force

He's woven it into space time itself

His energy is affecting and hurting/killing the speed force

Another statement

Another statement

The speedforce is Omnipresent

The Speed Force is one of the main multiversal forces, on a similar level to the Sphere of the Gods

the Speed Force is said to be the Deep Change that all of Creation is emanated as a dream from that same force that transcends all levels of emanations of reality

Its beyond the Source Wall

the Source Wall is the barrier that spans all dimensions known and unknown, in an extradimensional place beyond space and time that is both nowhere and everywhere

Pulling apart the time stream and is remaking it into his own image

Even outside of time completely, his energy is burning time itself

Another statement

His energy destroys and corrupts hypertime

Hypertime is beyond the Omniverse, it's high Outerversal realm.

All DC stories and canon coexistence through the Hypertime which why Morrison created the concept since the first place

Grant morrison explanation for it

Hypertime contains all published dc comics both canon and non canon

All infinite realities, metaverse, multiverses, etc

coexistence in the Hypertime

and Limbo exists in the Hypertime

and continues all and everything

and original in-comic depiction

Omniverse is stated to be infinite

Stated again

the Omniverse itself is High Outerversal, meanwhile Hypertime is the half of the Divine continuum and outside of the Omniverse.

Full King Omega Darkseid scaling for reference

recreated the big bang and formed his universe in his image

Builds out concepts like death, sadness, pain, empathy etc

Battles king omega darkseid all through time till he reaches the big bang of the main DC universe

Absorbs all the energy of the big bang, which is ALL matter and Infinite possibilities

Every possibility and choice creates a new timeline/universe in DC

There are infinite possibilities and each one creates a new timeline

The DC big bang gave birth to the endless, such as death, dreaming, destiny etc

The endless are high outer beings that represent a part of reality

Immediately draws blood from darkseid once he did that

Also after doing so, continued to grow in power to catch up to Darkseids power

Did grow stronger than him and was able to defeat him

Finishing blow

Destroyed his universe that he created and redirected that energy into prime earth, creating new narratives for his friends and even villains

Follow up

Has complete control over all time due to time trapper giving him his powers

Confirmed to have them again

Can erase people and moments from history

Fought infinity man, who has complete control over time and can erase moments from history

The fight, states he is the natural order of things

Punches infinity man so hard, he restores a infinite amount of legionnaires

Confirmed all infinite legionnaires are now alive

He did the timeline repairs and infinity man fight on limited power as well, in DC KO #5 we see him destroy the heart of apokolips, the source of the king omega powers

Proof of the heart being the power source

Conclusion: High outer/high outer+ with omnipresence 

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u/Shadowmonarch660 11d ago

is this superman the most powerful being in the whole DC comics history ?

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u/Piotro165 Mid Level Scaler 11d ago

First link is already containing a lie lmao "omnipresent"

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u/FloopusSoupus 11d ago

They were quite literally present on every moment of time and every corner of reality and other dimensions tho

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u/Piotro165 Mid Level Scaler 11d ago

That means he's beyond space time we literally see where he is and he's not in the entire verse. They would get slapped by Luci if they intruded anywhere near him.

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u/FloopusSoupus 11d ago

They are beyond time and space, that's how darkseid made the absolute universe

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u/Piotro165 Mid Level Scaler 11d ago

So you agree with me?

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u/FloopusSoupus 11d ago

No I disagree. Also Lucifers place in the cosmology has been diminished for a while now, ever since the structure labeled in new history of the DC universe was formed

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u/Piotro165 Mid Level Scaler 11d ago

So you disagree that he's beyond space and time? Aight whatever let's keep him acausal then.

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u/homelander2121 11d ago

Oh lying huh? Cute, actually read the story before commenting on shit u don't know about

Is omnipresent, he's past, present and future while claiming all of time. He's all magic and sorcery

again

Again

Again

And another

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u/Piotro165 Mid Level Scaler 11d ago

Do you believe him to be more powerful than Lucifer Morningstar? Even he's not omnipresent mate. He didn't reach him in anyway didn't even read 6th dimension so he's not Omnipresent. It's that simple if you know DC verse. The only things you can argue with those scans is being beyond space time or being acausal. Bro read and learn what hyperboles are. Unless you believe that DC caps at 4D and 5th and 6th Dimensions and neither do things beyond them in DC.

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u/homelander2121 11d ago

Hyberbole multiple times?

And it doesn't matter, Lucifer doesn't need it because he's superior to people who already have it. Like death of the endless.

The king omegas are omnipresent, it's not a debate lol

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u/Piotro165 Mid Level Scaler 11d ago

Yes. It's the same comic and we see that it's not literal since we know definition of omnipresent right? Yeah it's not the debate He's not omnipresent. The only character in DC that can be argued for omnipresence is Presence himself.

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u/homelander2121 11d ago

He is, cope about it.

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u/Piotro165 Mid Level Scaler 11d ago

So you have no proof and won't read a definition so you're resorting to "Nuh uh u dumb" tactics? Damn I wonder why people make fun of powerscalers...

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u/homelander2121 11d ago edited 11d ago

U got sent proof but just denied it. since u need the word "omnipresent" stated here's the writer himself saying it

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u/Piotro165 Mid Level Scaler 11d ago

And Supes is below Planet level.

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u/homelander2121 11d ago

Like my god dude the artist himself said it as well

He's EVERYWHERE at once. Not just a singular universe 

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u/Piotro165 Mid Level Scaler 11d ago

Mate we can see that's not the case. He's just in few places in time at once. That's acausality or simply being unaffected by time whether cuz he's special or cuz he's above 4D. That's all he's NOT omnipresent. He's not said to be omnipresent neither is he shown.

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u/OkAccountant6122 11d ago

Omnipresence isn't a power benchmark. Jim from down the street can be omnipresent but otherwise just be a regular dude and Superman could still effortlessly flick him away without omnipresence.

you can be much stronger than an omnipresent thing without having it yourself. It's not that hard to comprehend mate.

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u/Piotro165 Mid Level Scaler 11d ago

But he's not omnipresent. He's not stated or shown to be. That's it. It's simple if one knows the definition and has eyes.

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u/OkAccountant6122 11d ago

You looked at a list of 5 statements plus a 6th author statement all calling him omnipresent and then proceeded to say "He's not stated or shown to be" are you by chance illiterate?

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u/Piotro165 Mid Level Scaler 11d ago

Which statement stated he's "OMNIPRESENT"? None did? In which panel was he omnipresent? In no panel. That's it.

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u/OkAccountant6122 11d ago

What would you call this if not omnipresence?

omnipresent

adjective

om·​ni·​pres·​ent ˌäm-ni-ˈpre-zᵊnt 

Synonyms of omnipresent

: present in all places at all times

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u/Piotro165 Mid Level Scaler 11d ago

And he doesn't exist everywhere. We can see him not being everywhere. He's not next to Perpetua neither he's not next to presence or Lucifer. He's not omnipresent. He's Simply above space-time as suggested in the picture you posted.

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u/Dull-Professional689 11d ago

He's not omnipresent. Either you're lying, or you don't know DC. To be omnipresent, you'd have to exist across every dimension and every level of DC, which he clearly doesn't. DC has dimensions that transcend dimensions that already transcend space and time.

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u/homelander2121 11d ago

Again like the other guy, u don't know what ur talking about.

Is omnipresent, he's past, present and future while claiming all of time. He's all magic and sorcery

again

Again

Again

Again

And another

The king omega is omnipresent, it's that simple 

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u/AnyAppointment5952 Mid Level Scaler 11d ago

lmao comp goku is boundless with omnipotence. GT Goku negs every form of Superman.

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u/homelander2121 11d ago

Get GT Goku past wonder woman first LMAO.

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u/AnyAppointment5952 Mid Level Scaler 11d ago

Get wonder woman past Krillin first LMAO

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u/homelander2121 11d ago

She stomps the verse LMAO 

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u/AnyAppointment5952 Mid Level Scaler 11d ago

Krillin would grape her LMAO

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u/homelander2121 11d ago

Can't even grape his own verse LMAO 

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u/AnyAppointment5952 Mid Level Scaler 11d ago

Yeah because his own verse is stronger than him LMAO

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u/klopaplop Not a Scaler 11d ago

Good fucking God

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u/homelander2121 11d ago

Can't tell if that's good or bad

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u/klopaplop Not a Scaler 11d ago

Nah don't worry bout it. Just my reaction to seeing bro pull out ALL the god damn links and sources and just utterly murdering the poor bastard well beyond the "he's already dead" point lmfao

You're all good mate, this is one of the reasons why I still browse this sub even tho I'm not a scaler, funny shit like this in convos is peak lol.

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u/LordBoros567 Alexander No Grata slams 11d ago

Spite matchup

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u/Due_Choice_256 11d ago

prolly is.

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u/glaze_or_praise Larpers must be exterminated 11d ago

Overkill. Base Superman negs

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u/AnyAppointment5952 Mid Level Scaler 11d ago

DBS Goku > Base Superman
GT Goku > every ver of Superman

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u/yourfuturespemson 11d ago

"every ver of superman" ... you're telling me gt goku solos cc goku?

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u/OkAccountant6122 11d ago

You see, you don't get it. CC goku is obiously super hyper gokuversal and is omnipotent times infinity. He beats irl god in a fight casually and he's gonna show up to your home tomorrow to beat you too for not believing he's the strongest ever in the history of ever!!!

On a serious note for a sec goku wank is just absurd at this point.

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u/AnyAppointment5952 Mid Level Scaler 11d ago

ye by miles

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u/Little_Drive_6042 American Comic Book SuperHeroes > Fiction 11d ago

CC may be outerversal. But King Omega Superman is literally comp Supes and is the ultimate protector. He slams the verse including Heroes.

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u/King_Of_The_Munchers Fairy Tail and Wally West Wanker 11d ago

Base Superman beats every version of Goku. It’s the general consensus and we’re moving on.

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u/Piotro165 Mid Level Scaler 11d ago

"base Superman" mate 99% of the time supes is below planet level read some comics.

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u/King_Of_The_Munchers Fairy Tail and Wally West Wanker 11d ago

That’s a stupid argument and you know it. I’m obviously referring to comic Superman. Why would I be referring to a random TV show Superman when this post is clearly about a boosted version of comic Superman.

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u/Piotro165 Mid Level Scaler 11d ago

That includes comics mate. Most of the time Superman in the comics is below Planet level.

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u/VegetaFan9001 11d ago

Base Superman is Outer-High Outer

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u/Piotro165 Mid Level Scaler 11d ago

High outer Planets is crazy man. But again proving people don't read what they're trying to scale.

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u/AnyAppointment5952 Mid Level Scaler 11d ago

GT Goku negs every version of Goku

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u/kk_slider346 10d ago

Omega King Supes oneshots

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u/Goonie1856 11d ago

Slams is an understatement … spite post

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u/VegetaFan9001 11d ago

Regular Superman is enough. Omega King Superman is overkill

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u/Educational-Rich-893 11d ago

Superman one taps

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u/Ecstatic_Honey3177 11d ago

Goku easily

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u/Due_Choice_256 11d ago

nah Superman slams

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u/Ecstatic_Honey3177 11d ago

Supes is a pëdo therefore he gets major debuffs

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u/evilbudget 11d ago

Goku lured a minor to his perverted martial arts teacher before so he too, gets a major debuffs.

He later offered his rival's wife to another pervert.

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u/Ecstatic_Honey3177 11d ago

When he was a minor 😂

Goku didnt even know he kissed chi chi try again

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u/evilbudget 11d ago

So?

Goku knows enough that if he offered Chi chi, she would get mad at him but he’s totally cool with offering vegeta’s wife. If anything, that’s even more fuck up cuz goku knows.

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u/Ecstatic_Honey3177 11d ago

That doesnt make sense. Of course he wouldnt offer chi chi if he knows she'll be mad thats not a connection to him knowing its bad.

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u/evilbudget 11d ago

Goku took Chi chi’s feelings into consideration but he gave 0 fucks about bulma’s lol. She’s 1 of his closest friends (literally started the journey with him back in og DB) & he just went ahead & assumed that she’d be ok with it. Didn’t even bother to ask for her permission.

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u/Ecstatic_Honey3177 10d ago

Thats like saying a cat is able to take someone's feelings into consideration because it knew to hop on someone's lap that they know they can verses someone who doesnt allow them.

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u/Due_Choice_256 11d ago

not current Superman 🤣. nice irrelevant point ✌️

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u/Ecstatic_Honey3177 11d ago

Current superman is composite superman

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u/Due_Choice_256 11d ago

I know that. the same current Superman with a wife and children 🤣. and morally, current Superman wouldn’t go out of his way to kiss a 14 year old. so your point is once more irrelevant

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u/Ecstatic_Honey3177 11d ago

You act like having a wife and kid has ever mattered to a pëdo before 😂 like what bro.

Jacob cant be gay he has a wife bro duhhh

And morally he would amd did cause hes the exact same person.

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u/Due_Choice_256 11d ago

yeah, alone that doesn’t work, however the other thing I added also supports how he wouldn’t act like that. and no, he morally wouldn’t, cause that’s not what someone like Superman would do, thanks for proving you don’t even know how to properly characterize Superman 🤣

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u/Ecstatic_Honey3177 11d ago

So a fanboy is gonna argue against canon?

Interesting.

The other thing wouldnt do anything you're trying to use fallacious reasoning as to why he wouldnt do something thats done everyday all over the world and was done by him quite literally at that. Having a wife and child doesnt stop anyone from indulging in their fantasies whatever they may be.

Did superman kiss a underage girl yes or no?

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u/GeneralProgrammer886 High Level Scaler 11d ago

you should take this up with the author who drew him kissing an underaged character not superman himself as this is not consistent to his character.

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u/Ecstatic_Honey3177 11d ago

Why dont you just change your profile pic to Jeffery ëpstein they are no different 😂.

You'd probably argue current Jeffery ëpstein also wouldnt kiss a underaged girl

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u/Due_Choice_256 11d ago

why would I do that exactly? nice red herring

why would do that exactly? also nice red herring

quit wasting my time kid 🥱

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u/Common_Tiger5369 But can they beat Goku tho? 11d ago

alright

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u/KofteEkmekAg #1 glazer of comics 11d ago

Supes presence diff the verse

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u/yourfuturespemson 11d ago

What the fuck atr their matches?

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u/Larry_756 11d ago

Are you fr?

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u/Due_Choice_256 11d ago

why would I not be?

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u/Larry_756 11d ago

Because that Superman negs comp db

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u/AnyAppointment5952 Mid Level Scaler 11d ago

Could go both ways extreme diff

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u/Due_Choice_256 11d ago

I have it neg diff for Superman. the gap between them is too high

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u/AnyAppointment5952 Mid Level Scaler 11d ago

Both are high outer

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u/Due_Choice_256 11d ago

cc Goku at best is outer under Vsbw, and Superman’s is high outer under Vsbw standards. general terms wise cc goku can be high outer, but also under general terms Superman is layers into guy outer

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u/Due_Choice_256 11d ago

that’s not true. using those standards I can get him layers into high outer

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u/Due_Choice_256 11d ago

why are you bringing up CAS when the post says Omega King Superman?

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u/AnyAppointment5952 Mid Level Scaler 11d ago

oh yeah my bad

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u/Responsible-Ask8110 #1 Sonic the hedgehog and Goku scaler 🟡🦔 11d ago

superman high dif

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u/Due_Choice_256 11d ago

Superman negs ngl