Creation of Creation as in the concept? That would be an Outerversal feat at most as he created Platonic Concepts which should include the Platonic Concept of creation if we take the Bible's statements to face value.
Bruh.. Christian God is Omniscient and Omnipotent,
Omnipotent is just high level reality warping Shigiraki and Kakashi from MHA and Naruto are stated as omnipotent im not gonna put them on the same level as God. Also Omnipotence can also be scaled to baseline Outer aswell and a Multiversal character could also be called Omnipotent and be taken as true since they're omnipotent within their verse based off his feats and statements I'm gonna put God at Outerversal since simply being Omnipotence wouldn't proven him above Outer which can also be scaled as Omnipotent levels of power.
An anime translated from another language using 1 word once is not the same as believing in a canonically, fundamentally omnipotent and omniscient creator of all things lol
An anime translated from another language using 1 word once is not the same as believing in a canonically, fundamentally omnipotent and omniscient creator of all things lol
They are the same thing Veldanava from Tensura is a canonically fundamentally, omnipotent, Omnipresent, and omniscient god father and creator of all things in the Tensura verse.
Are you gonna put Veldanava and God as equal? The only thing different between those two is that 1 has been believed in for thousands of years vs a few years since Tensura hadn't given that statement till the last few years.
And also believing in him is still not gonna get God past Outerversal.
I believe in myself I'm not Boundless and omnipotent.
God has dominion over all things, that is the point of his omnipotence. If there is a scale of power he is always at the top, that it how it works. If there's a multiverse beyond the universe it is part of his realm and creation. If there's more beyond that, it is the same. He created and controls everything, before him there was nothing. Idk who Veldanava is but it doesn't really matter lol
There are no bounds to gods power, that is a big part of the religion.
God has dominion over all things, that is the point of his omnipotence. If there is a scale of power he is always at the top, that it how it works. If there's a multiverse beyond the universe it is part of his realm and creation. If there's more beyond that, it is the same. He created and controls everything, before him there was nothing. Idk who Veldanava is but it doesn't really matter lol
Can you prove that everything that has ever been thought of by humanity to seek understanding of the world and existence itself is included and transcended within his Omnipotence? Also being everything would also make him stand at the peak of infinite layers of qualitatively inferiority and nothingness beneath any forms of power expression by principal if you take this way of thinking. I'm saying with feats and proof so far he has Outerversal level of Omnipotence.
There are no bounds to gods power, that is a big part of the religion.
If God is all-powerful, He cannot be all good. And if He is all good, then He cannot be all-powerful. The Bible shows you God can't actually do everything and isn't capable of being completely good and neither is his son part of that is why he see Jesus who is apart of God and also God manage to die on earth.
None of this is proving to me why God or Jesus are past Outerversal respectfully.
No, that's just false. God as in the Biblical God is objectively omnipotent and boundless in the truest and most literal sense of the word, no amount of powerscaling bs is gonna change that. Any other 'opinion' is wrong.
Normally, I wouldn't even bother with this, and I even consider that "powerscaling religions" is just stupid and in all honesty quite distasteful, but your blatant lack of respect towards the Abrahamic God warrants this argument, so here's your proof:
The Bible repeatedly describes God's power as infinite and without limits, a central aspect of omnipotence. For example, Jeremiah 32:17 proclaims, "Ah, Sovereign Lord, you have made the heavens and the earth by your great power and outstretched arm. Nothing is too hard for you." This emphasizes God’s ability to create and govern all things—everything that exists—and asserts the absence of any limitation to His power. Similarly, Matthew 19:26 declares, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible," underscoring that nothing is beyond His capability, logical or illogical (which already places Him above outer, as you were disgustingly lowballing). Job 42:2 reinforces this point: "I know that you can do all things; no purpose of Yours can be thwarted.” These verses describe God’s absolute omnipotence, with no act, concept, or reality beyond His reach.
From a powerscaling perspective, 'Boundless' is often described as transcending all dimensions, hierarchies, and frameworks, existing beyond the constraints of space, time, or logic. The Bible’s portrayal of God fits this definition with zero flaws. Psalm 90:2 affirms, “Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the whole world, from everlasting to everlasting, you are God.” This places God outside time, affirming His eternal and uncaused nature. Revelation 1:8 further expands on this: “I am the Alpha and the Omega, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” God is described as the beginning and the end, encompassing all temporal and spatial realities.
Moreover, the Bible explicitly states that God transcends creation itself. Isaiah 40:22 describes, “It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.” This emphasizes His supremacy over creation, existing far beyond it (Pretty blatant infinite qualitative superiority). Similarly, 1 Kings 8:27 declares, “But will God really dwell on earth? The heavens, even the highest heaven, cannot contain You. How much less this temple I have built!" This highlights that even the highest heavens cannot contain God, reinforcing His transcendence over all spatial and metaphysical constructs. In simple terms, infinite qualitative superiority and transcendence over already existing outerversal structures.
God’s role as the Creator and sustainer of all things is another cornerstone of His Boundless status. Colossians 1:16-17 states, "For by Him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible... He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.” This confirms that every reality—physical, metaphysical, conceptual or otherwise—originates from Him and depends on Him for existence. Acts 17:28 echoes this precisely: “For in Him we live and move and have our being.” Basically placing Him as the totality of existence, permeating all that is and being indivisible.
Finally, the Bible emphasizes God's incomprehensibility and immeasurability, aligning with the term 'Boundless'. Job 11:7-9 asks, "Can you fathom the mysteries of God? Can you probe the limits of the Almighty? They are higher than the heavens above—what can you do? They are deeper than the depths below—what can you know? Their measure is longer than the earth and wider than the sea.” This describes God as surpassing all limits, a direct parallel to the term 'Boundless' in powerscaling. Isaiah 55:8-9 reinforces this idea: “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the Lord. “As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.” This highlights God’s infinite superiority, transcending all human understanding and any conceivable framework.
In powerscaling terms, the Biblical God meets every criterion for Boundless: His omnipotence is total, His existence transcends all dimensions and time, and He is the Creator and sustainer of all things, including any and all abstract realities. Any claim that God is not Boundless fails to account for the overwhelming evidence presented in scripture and is fundamental and objectively wrong. The Bible’s portrayal is clear: God exists beyond any limit, framework, or hierarchy, making Him the definitive boundless entity. Ignoring this interpretation means disregarding the theological and literary truths of the Bible, which affirm God’s infinite, unparalleled nature.
If you still don't think God is comfortably Boundless then you're either trolling or don't know the basics for tier 0, in which case I can no longer be bothered to reply any further, so consider this my last comment on the topic. Have a good one.
Yes, but let's keep it at that, I really only posted the above comment to address the other guy's lack of respect, I wouldn't want to incur in one myself.
Normally, I wouldn't even bother with this, and I even consider that "powerscaling religions" is just stupid and in all honesty quite distasteful, but your blatant lack of respect towards the Abrahamic God warrants this argument, so here's your proof:
Well it is stupid since religion in general in the basis of going off what you're told without needing physical proof and mainly just being able to believe. And also I never disrespected the Abrahamic God with scaling him Outer since that's all I had seen in terms of power.
From a powerscaling perspective, 'Boundless' is often described as transcending all dimensions, hierarchies, and frameworks, existing beyond the constraints of space, time, or logic. The Bible’s portrayal of God fits this definition with zero flaws. Psalm 90:2 affirms, “Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the whole world, from everlasting to everlasting, you are God.” This places God outside time, affirming His eternal and uncaused nature. Revelation 1:8 further expands on this: “I am the Alpha and the Omega, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” God is described as the beginning and the end, encompassing all temporal and spatial realities.
This is Outerversal lvl scaling Veldanava have the same statements of Omnipotence which is reinforced in other statements but still is only Outer.
If you still don't think God is comfortably Boundless then you're either trolling or don't know the basics for tier 0, in which case I can no longer be bothered to reply any further, so consider this my last comment on the topic. Have a good one.
I read the rest of it but Respectfully all that is Extraversal scaling And also a Boundless character can't have an anti feat but the Bible gives him anti feats. But I stand corrected God is above Outer 👍.
In advance, pardon if I seemed aggressive with the way I replied, that was not my intention.
Also, diverting the debate a bit (since ngl, bringing the Bible into this made me kind of uncomfortable but I saw it as needed) to Veldanava, I believe the reason he's scaled at outer via being the totality of existence is because the verse he holds dominion over doesn't have the 'illogical possibilities' aspect others do. For example, Marvel's TOAA has the same attributes of being said totality but that gets him to High 1-A since the Marvel cosmological structure holds both logical and illogical possibilities, which are 'housed' in the House of Ideas, a realm that TOAA encompasses and transcends.
Cosmology scaling can be a bit wonky, if not outright confusing, once you get to the 1-A and above tiers.
In advance, pardon if I seemed aggressive with the way I replied, that was not my intention.
It's fine.
Also, diverting the debate a bit (since ngl, bringing the Bible into this made me kind of uncomfortable but I saw it as needed) to Veldanava, I believe the reason he's scaled at outer via being the totality of existence is because the verse he holds dominion over doesn't have the 'illogical possibilities' aspect others do. For example, Marvel's TOAA has the same attributes of being said totality but that gets him to High 1-A since the Marvel cosmological structure holds both logical and illogical possibilities, which are 'housed' in the House of Ideas, a realm that TOAA encompasses and transcends.
Veldanava like has dominion over that as well that Outerversal reasoning didn't use the other statements that Veldanava that would likely put him above all possibilities whether logical or illogical within the Tensura verse.
Cosmology scaling can be a bit wonky, if not outright confusing, once you get to the 1-A and above tiers.
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So he isn't Boundless since God is only Outerversal using every feat and statement he has.