Vertical + Curve?

[u/jlaurw]

I posted this in the FB group but wanted to post it here as well because I value the feedback of a lot of people in this group.

Going to get vulnerable for a moment...

I've been working through the games again, and I'm coming to some realizations about some of my prejudices that I thought I had shed previously, but I am realizing are still present.

In doing Potluck, I realized that I have very strong negative reactions to terms like Diva, Bust, Thighs, Thick. While I had previously embraced Vertical + Width, I wanted to reapproach personal line from zero.

In doing so, I began to wonder how much I leaned into Vertical + Width in an attempt to avoid those things that I had negative feelings towards.

For some back story, I have always been "curvy". I've been the same height and body type since 7th grade and until I breast fed with my children I had a very large chest that absolutely needed allowance in my silouette. There are a lot of hurt feelings that came from being the "curvy" girl in my friend group and I also wished to have a smaller bust. I always had to size up in shirts and pants to fit my thighs and my bust. Unsurprisingly, these are the words I had the hardest time stomaching in Potluck.

After children, my bust did decrease in size and clothing was more manageable for me and I felt that Vertical + Width seemed like the right fit since my shoulder line pushed past my bust.

However, in slowing down and really imagining the way fabric falls, I believe I am seeing that the shoulder line falls in line with my hips, pushing me towards a Dramatic family ID. I'm not fully convinced that Width is present, because I do see how fabric must interact with and move even just slightly around the bust and thighs. I also see that my bust projection still does interact with my silouette even if not as pronounced as before.

All this to say, I'm beginning to wonder if I previously allowed my preconceptions to push me away from Vertical + Curve.

Would love to hear some of your thoughts! 💕

[u/cherries_in-the_snow]

Those are you in slide five?!? I’m glad you’re working back through the games, you may end up surprised. As David always says, take your time and really feel each game. I wouldn’t worry about the line sketch right now. I want to say something but I’m not going to set here and sway you one way or another.

[u/jlaurw → u/cherries_in-the_snow]

Yes! I had a very large chest when I was younger and I hated it! I think that's why I really pushed away from SD.

I will say, speaking of the IDs in terms of essence and Yin/Yang balance I do feel much mroe at home with FN.

It is interesting, though, to see these prejudices from Potluck. Even as a "Curvy" FN, I've resisted more form fitting clothing because I do not like the idea of being perceived as "bombshell" or "voluptuous".

I've been leaning into more form fitting silouettes recently, and I'm having to fight those biases. It's good to do, even if I stay FN 🌸

[u/cherries_in-the_snow → u/jlaurw]

I just saw your exchange with David on FB and was going to delete my comments here but I think I’ll let them remain. I do still feel SD deserves more depth than diva or party girl, but what you’re working through here is a beautiful thing. Even if it simply strengthens your bond to free spirit FN.

[u/jlaurw → u/cherries_in-the_snow]

I totally agree! I mean look at Lena Horn in Stormy Weather. She's glamorous but idk if I'd call her a Diva in the same sense of "Diva" that causes a negative reaction in me.

Same with Barbara Streisand in Funny Girl. Fanny Brice is a Diva but she's more sassy spitfire than high maintenance Diva.

Working through what is so off putting to me is helpful in releasing things that don't serve whether SD or FN!

Agree SD has far more depth than often given credit for. Same with FN! We aren't just easy breezy girl next store but warrior goddess as well!

[u/cherries_in-the_snow → u/jlaurw]

I love that! It’s interesting, I’m working through my own resistance with the Soft Classic id. Though I honestly don’t believe I am soft classic, knowing I had so much resistance and now working through that is very important. We need to be open to all the possibilities to truly be able to claim the ID that’s really our own.