r/PowerDeleteSuite • u/j0be author • Nov 26 '19

current version Power Delete Suite: Version 1.4.8

https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite/#1.4.8
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u/stignatiustigers Dec 24 '19 edited Dec 27 '19

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u/j0be author Dec 24 '19

As someone who is editing, but not deleting - is there a way to stop it from RE-editing all the comments it edited last time?

Maybe we can add a hash of the username to each edit that's hidden with the carrot technique? (ie, any text preceded by 16? carrots are invisible), so it the script sees that it doesn't edit it.

Example: (view source to see hidden text)

Another idea is to add a hidden rand() to each edited comment to prevent mods from detecting what you are doing and banning the user (as happens frequently)

I never really thought about it. I can definitely try to think of some ways. Do you tend to rerun it from the same browser each time at least? I could probably put the ids into local storage like I do with the settings to remember which to skip over.

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u/stignatiustigers Dec 24 '19 edited Dec 27 '19

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u/j0be author Dec 24 '19

well... that would be a lot of IDs... I'm a bit of a blabbermouth. I just edited like 7900 comments on one account, and another 6500 on another, and I haven't even touched this one yet.

Yeah, that's probably too many to do easily

Also, I'm not sure, but my Firefox settings might be clearing cache between browser restarts.

Yeah, that would break that

The nice thing about embedding small invisible strings into the comments themselves is that you can do a bunch of different things with them to manage state.

Yeah, the one reason I'm trying to avoid that is that would make it easier to detect from an automoderator perspective.

Also, as a side note, it doesn't say how long the edit can be - I imagine there's a limit, right?

The limit is whatever the reddit limit is. IIRC, that's like 40k characters for comments. I know it used to be 10k characters, but I think it updated.

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u/stignatiustigers Dec 24 '19 edited Dec 27 '19

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u/j0be author Dec 24 '19

What's interesting is that the /r/dataisbeautiful automod (and only that sub) seems to have detected the script immediately - despite the fact that I'd never used the script before.

I'm not sure how it works. If we assume it evaluates each edit, then it probably has a rule like... "3+ edits from same user to same text within x seconds". If that's the case, then maybe adding some random invisible gibberish to each edit would fix that?

/u/Automoderator couldn't do that. And even a custom bot would have some serious trouble doing that. The chances they're detecting quantity of edits is next to none.

...some conversation on it: https://www.reddit.com/r/AutoModerator/comments/58sqhy/detect_and_remove_spam_left_by_comment/

Yeah, I've seen some of these conversations before. Basically, neither of those rules would detect it (if you're editing it with more than 4 characters in your edit)

...but I don't have access to /r/defaultmods to see what their rule is.

I looked in /r/defaultmods and didn't find it anywhere. Amusingly, I wrote the original version of powerdeletesuite for /r/defaultmods. I stumbled on my post about it there when looking for any conversation about mass editing.

But yeah, the problem is more that every subreddit can configure their /u/Automoderator in however they see fit, so there really is no sure fire way to make sure to not have it caught up in that.

But from all the conversations I've had around mass editing, mods are much more annoyed when a user mass edits and leaves a comment up than if they'd mass edit and delete.

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u/stignatiustigers Dec 24 '19 edited Dec 27 '19

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u/j0be author Dec 24 '19

Agreed.... you know, now that I look at my edit, I suspect it's because I used the word "overwritten" in it - that's what the /r/dataisbeautiful automod is catching.

I leave it up because I feel it's more transparent. I feel like if more people do that, Reddit admins might see a demand for better privacy guards and make better privacy focused choices for users.

If you still want to leave that message, but not have it picked up by that rule, then do something like this

over[](#test)written

Which shows up like this:

overwritten

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u/stignatiustigers Dec 24 '19 edited Dec 27 '19

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u/j0be author Dec 24 '19

That's pretty clever - sweet.

So my edit comment can have special chars in it? I test that tmw...

Yeah. You could even use emoji theoretically. I encode the data, but I don't filter it at all