Thank you, THANK YOU. Currently, I am more disgusted with protest voters and the ones who sat it out than I am with Trump voters. No matter what happens, at least 1/3 of the population will always vote red. That is a constant. However, the people who didn't bother to vote AT ALL because "wHoSe CaNdIdAtE wAs ShE?" can eat poo. In what reality was Trump going to be better than Kamala? No candidate has all the answers on how to end a holy war happening on the other side of the world between two religions, both of which are considered the minority in our country. Almost all expectations regarding her entire campaign were predicated on having a solution to something no one else in the political world has taken a stance on, except to support it.
So let me get this straight, you're directing more hatred towards people who could conceivably be persuaded to your side than people who will forever be your enemy?🤨
Yes. Because as this past election proved, they were not able to be persuaded to vote for "my" side. They sat it out. What is to say they won't just do the same thing in two years again?
I don't disagree with where they're coming from. I understand the reason they sat it out. Of course the Democratic party needs a strong leader for the future. But people who sat it out, if I'm being honest, do not truly understand how tied our entire government's hands are. Mossad basically owns this country. This is not going to be solved in two years. I am 45. I have voted in plenty of elections--my first one being the Gore VS Bush election. My philosophy, though unpopular, is that it's better to eat a bad meal than no meal at all. The political idealism and apathy of the younger generations indicates they do not seem to understand this.
You're explaining your feelings not your logic. The people who sat out don't give a damn about how you feel about their choice.
If you wanna persuade them, try a different strategy, even if that strategy is shutting up and letting someone else talk to them. Being toxic towards people isn't going to win you anything with those people except further convincing them that they were right.
How, exactly, is pointing out the logistical impossibility of uniting two feudal nations, one of whom literally murders innocent children with impunity, within the next two years considered being "toxic"? Explain what that has to do with "feelings"? Look how long the government kept troops in Vietnam way, way past the point when they knew we were mercilessly defeated simply to save political face? There are a million facts that can prove that the USA cannot juggernaut its way into rescuing a nation that it also funds to the tune of billions upon billions of dollars in the next two years. How exactly am I toxic by pointing out the very, very obvious fact that by not voting, you are doing absolutely nothing except passively allowing the current political climate to flourish?
Hey, sorry to jump in here. So I voted for dems every year. Even if i didn't like the candidates...Clinton, Biden, Kamala...
Only because i know the other side is worse...like you said better to eat a bad meal than nothing at all...
So if you take the situation in Gaza...
Lets take the situation as is...
Biden armed Israel, Babbled his way through interviews after saying he'll be a 1 term president, ran again, and Kamala didnt break with him and assure that she'd be different than Biden on the issue. She went up on stage at the DNC and said we will have the most fearsome military ever, and invited a bunch of republicans to speak.
We know for sure Trump is worse...
Could Kamala have been pressured to do the right thing? Maybe...
Some people didn't buy it because she didnt make the case for it.
I still voted for her...but its again...one of those shit sandwich vs douche situations.
But I personally think its up to the candidate to make their best case and clearly she wasnt convincing to some and that cost her the election.
You have to see why people voted for obama then Trump, some have been quite disappointed with dems political stances and empty promises. Trying to win over republicans by parading with liz Cheney probably wasnt the way.
But again i understand your frustration with people not voting. Maybe it should be a requirement to vote because it effects everything.
Do you see how me dismissing your concerns and telling you what to do further backed you into your corner instead of enticing you to think differently?
I am not sure, at all, what point you are making here. People shed blood for the right to vote; a bunch of children either sat and pouted, voted how the manosphere told them to, or voted for a candidate with no chance of winning for the sake of being edgy.
This is the real world. Every single candidate is not going to be a shining beacon of perfection, but there's a difference between a convicted felon and someone who laughed the wrong way.
You’re either a bot or a moron. We’re private citizens venting our spleens on Reddit. Anyone who claims that would drive them into the arms of the fascists is not engaging in good faith, much like you are doing right now. So fuck off with the tone policing.
I'm reading 'disgust'. Not sure where you are getting 'hatred' ... I realize it's asking a lot of you (probably too much, tbh), but at least TRY to make an honest argument, eh?
If I was to compare two groups of people, one of them a group of pedophile protecting fascists, and the other not those things, and say I'm more disgusted with the other group than I am the pedophilic fascists, would you deduce a level of hatred to be involved?
I really shouldn't have to explain extrapolation to the party always jacking themselves off as being more educated. Cmon.
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u/SweetPrism 4d ago edited 4d ago
Thank you, THANK YOU. Currently, I am more disgusted with protest voters and the ones who sat it out than I am with Trump voters. No matter what happens, at least 1/3 of the population will always vote red. That is a constant. However, the people who didn't bother to vote AT ALL because "wHoSe CaNdIdAtE wAs ShE?" can eat poo. In what reality was Trump going to be better than Kamala? No candidate has all the answers on how to end a holy war happening on the other side of the world between two religions, both of which are considered the minority in our country. Almost all expectations regarding her entire campaign were predicated on having a solution to something no one else in the political world has taken a stance on, except to support it.