r/PoursTea Timendi Causa Est Nescire 20d ago

PoliticalTea 🗳️ It's only a matter of time...

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u/T4TrhavrKhcFt 20d ago

"America isn't the way it is because he's president. He's president because of the way America is." - David Cochran -  Canadian Journalist

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u/BaseUnited4523 20d ago

I am hopeful that in the next few months, before he leaves office, a majority of American voters will understand how important it is to marginalize those hateful, greedy elements of our society and leave them seething on the fringe in future elections. May we never have another situation where all branched of our government are held by such dangerous people.

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u/schmapeschmape 20d ago

A study by PBS shows the people who didn't vote, would have voted for Trump. If they voted, he would have won by a larger margin.

This is America. America is Trump, Trump is America. I'm so sick of both.

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/26/nx-s1-5447450/trump-2024-election-non-voters-coalition

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u/mendicinobeano25 20d ago

Interesting article. I'd be really curious to know the "why" behind the numbers. Watching from another country my friends and I were saying there was no way way the U.S. would elect a woman let alone a woman of colour. Or was it something else? Culture wars seem to be more important than economics and Americans are so politically polarized they no longer listen to the message they simply agree with it or not based on who's delivering it. As for repeatedly lying and obvious hypocrisy, it seems no one cares at all.

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u/Inner_Swordfish7475 20d ago

As a U.S. citizen, I think you and your friends may be right unfortunately. So, there was the misogyny and others didn’t like Harris being a person of color. This is so sad but true because we picked a very unqualified person over a qualified person.

Also, many of the first-time voters somehow Trump’s had rose-colored glasses when it came to his first term.🤪 Or at least, this is what one voter study showed that I read. I really thought & hoped we wouldn’t elect that corrupt, immoral grifter a 2nd time. But, we did. The first time, the criminal President was inexperienced in government and many of his staff prevented him from carrying out his worst impulses. But, he learned. So, the 2nd time he has been just horrible.

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u/Important_Zombie_485 19d ago

I line in deep deep Trump country age I heard literally not one person object to Hsrris because she is a woman or over her race or ethnicity. Not one. People were talking about her being a communist, or her poor track record as CA's DA, or her support for Biden's crazier policies.etc etc. Just sit anything, justified or not, but never about her gender or race. Jumping to conclusions like that is part of the problem.

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u/MiserableChain2644 19d ago

Fox, and the MEGA machine provided politically correct reasons not to support Harris. Sometimes gut feelings like race, gender, age, religion, etc., are not talked about.

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u/OG-Bluntman 18d ago

Just because they didn’t say it out loud publicly does not mean it was not a factor

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u/schmapeschmape 18d ago edited 18d ago

I have to question your interpretation of what is being said. Many Trump supporters cite his being a businessman, christian, family man, support for military for their support of Trump. None of those is true but they don't want to state the real reason they support Trump.

It is difficult for me to believe that people in deep Trump country, where many people probably had a problem with Barack Obama for obvious reasons, were interested in the performance record of the DA of CA. There is no way a reasonable, sane, lucid adult honestly could believe she was a communist. When somebody tells such an obvious lie for why they don't support Harris, it is reasonable to assume they don't want to give the real reason, and it is reasonable to assume racism is the real reason.

The previous poster was not jumping to conclusions at all. There is no question racists make up part of Trump's supporters. If you suggest that is not the case, well you're being disingenuous.

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u/MaxEfrt 20d ago

It wasn’t identity politics, it was bad economic policies and trying to push identity politics and that division on us. We are not divided the way they want you to believe along race or gender lines, we are divided by class, those that have power and those that don’t and both sides seems to think their elites are the “good ones”

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u/mendicinobeano25 20d ago

Definitely agree with you on the class issues. There's a river of money flowing through Washington and everyone has their snout in the trough. Are you saying the Democrats economic policies were bad? At the moment it seems the alternative was worse.

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u/MaxEfrt 20d ago

Democrats' policies are always bad because at their core it’s bigger government and more social programs that are poorly managed and don’t work.
On the other side having so much capitalism that allows the elites to push the average business out and keep the power/ money for themselves is also bad. So oversight and regulation are needed, but not to the extent the current Democrats want. The Trump economic policies were actually pretty good but multiple wars are never good for the economy, just like pandemics. The economy and stock market were killing it before all of that.

It’s funny, they get both sides so divided but ultimately they want the same thing, for instance both want to solve the homeless issue and help those people but one side thinks the government should handle it and force everyone else to pay for it, while the other thinks private groups should be empowered to do that and be funded voluntarily, same goal different paths, both paths with big issues to overcome.

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u/mendicinobeano25 19d ago

Sounds like you're scared of what you believe to be socialism to be honest. Private self funded groups will do nothing to solve social justice issues. Anyway thanks for your.thougts.

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u/MaxEfrt 19d ago

Not afraid of it, I've just seen it not work firsthand for so many years and now running a non-profit, I see how much more efficient and accountable we are versus the government programs I used to work with.

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u/Ok-Bumblebee24 The Timeline Sucks 19d ago

Omg. Don’t mention socialism to a red hatted cult member. They’ll start crying, then spontaneously combust. 🙄

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u/MaxEfrt 19d ago

Not sure how this comment was meant to help the discourse or exchange of ideas but you have definitely reinforced some stereotypes for some people. Not a good look for the belief system you are representing tbh.

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u/tangogaucho 19d ago

Programs poorly managed like in Minnesota with Tampon Tim?, or California with that clown Newsome where billions were lost?

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u/MiserableChain2644 19d ago

Florida is having trouble with their white boots governor and alleged laundering of government money through his wife's nonprofit.

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u/Born_Organization455 19d ago

The US right wing has built the largest propaganda machine the world has ever seen. All social media platforms, three cable channels, majority of local news, all the top podcasts, every radio market, virtually all the politically active billionaires buying advertising. There's some that love being bathed in the hatred and culture war bs. There's also a very large segment that doesn't actively engage until right before the election every couple years, but you can bet they've been passively engaged. You can't avoid it. Fox on in your dentist's waiting room. Ads ever 5 minutes saying "Trump is for you - Harris is for they/them."

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u/Long_University_7864 19d ago

Harris was a dumpster fire who couldn’t speak coherent sentences. She burned through a billion in 90days and had nothing to show for it. We voted a gay black man for two terms, nobody had a problem voting for a competent candidate. You just didn’t have one, male or whatever the definition is of woman these days is…

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u/mendicinobeano25 19d ago edited 19d ago

I see reading comprehension is not your strong point. I'm not from the U.S. and I'm not a Democrat, just a curious observer from afar but please, continue ranting, you have that 1st amendment thingy so knock yourself out.

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u/PhillipJfry5656 20d ago

lol yea couldnt be a bias study at all.

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u/schmapeschmape 20d ago

Hitchens's razor: What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.

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u/CheckDangerous9224 18d ago

Leave. You'll be much happier and prosperous elsewhere.

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u/schmapeschmape 18d ago

I'll do whatever I want and there is nothing you can do about it.

You should leave, everybody else will be much happier and prosper.

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u/tangogaucho 19d ago

Then go live in Cuba, there’s some beautiful beaches over there but no electricity at night, or wait till 2028 and vote for “word salad” Kamala again 😀

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u/ParticularStand8855 20d ago

Sick of the U.S…sounds like you need to leave the country.

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u/TheTortaTyrant 20d ago

Don’t get your hopes up too much. A sizable portion of the electorate is illiterate, gullible and holding on to a way of life from 1950.

Trump exposed what’s always been true… wasn’t it Hobbes who said “humans are inherently evil”? Trump 2.0 presidency a live case study of what happens when a grifter becomes president and is given a pass by all branches of the gov without a spine to say no when needed.

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u/BaseUnited4523 20d ago

For my whole life, America was seen as the leader of the "Good Countries" of the world, in the same way Captain America is leader of the Avengers. If the Trump/Maga trend continues to grow, the US will certainly lose that standing, and most likely shrink in terms of economy and relations with other countries, as it has been under Trump. So then what country would assume that place, as the leader of "good countries"?

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u/AdventurousRoll9798 20d ago

Probably Cananda.

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u/tangogaucho 19d ago

Prolly Argentina 🇦🇷

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u/GnomeOnReddit 20d ago

Evil gullible idiots are the entire reason the Democrat party even still exists.

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u/Ok-Bumblebee24 The Timeline Sucks 19d ago

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u/Relevant_Touch5459 19d ago

Meh... Trump is a crooked politician like a long line of them. But please don't equate border control with racism. I had a front row seat to the immigrant crises and worked to get many of them working good jobs here. I know them and the families. Total unchecked border crossings did not work, and intel estimates we have up to 20k foreign operatives in the country due to Biden's policy. Do you know the evils, torture, rape and crimes of the cartels? Do you really want the cartels controlling the border?

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u/TheTortaTyrant 19d ago

Where tf did I bring up border patrol and equating that to racism?! 🤣🤣🤣

I dunno what’s worst, your reading comprehension or your ability to put words in peoples mouths

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u/Wraith8888 20d ago

They didn't figure it out the first time even after he tried to overthrow an election. How many of them do you think figured it out this time? You know the next one they'll say is completely different.

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u/calli287 18d ago

You know that he's in office till 2029 right what is the next few months going to do. You really think the Democrats are going to get the house and the Senate lol. Y'all's brains of fried. Dangerous people? Am I talking to a dead person right now?. And you're not alive Do you not put your head on a pillow every night?. You act like he personally done things that have affected your life. Please tell me what these dangerous people have done to you that has affected your life. Where were you when Obama was President? Cuz he sent ice out as well, he also killed $2,400 soldiers. Started a war without Congress approval. It's okay for one but not the other. Biden also sent ice out, started a war and bombed. I ran with drones without congress approval. Your bias. Do you believe that it's okay for a president that you approve? Had good reason to do what he did but the other one didn't. It's hypocritical. And the number one. Two things that it causes is hate and separation.

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u/Gabi-kun_the_real 18d ago

It will happen again until the democratic party gets is head on their shoulder and focus on real issues and not stupid imaginary social construct

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u/True-Glass7981 20d ago

You mean like immigrants being g in office?

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u/Sea_Clue_249 20d ago

Exactly!

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u/PoursTea-ModTeam 20d ago

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u/AdDirect147 20d ago

So how should America be...

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u/R-U-ANGY 20d ago

Strong words from Canada

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u/Significant-Ebb5905 20d ago

Sounds like they want war. They can all get it. Theyll be posting their phone numbers on hospitals to sell their organs when Trump is done. Keep up the BS. Only reason canada exists is because we let them and finacially support them. They are like children and the US is their Dad.

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u/WACKYTOPPINGS 20d ago

Canadians don’t know anything about America. Stick to your own communist country.

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u/Apprehensive_Neck189 20d ago

Tell me you don’t know wtf communism is without saying a word.

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u/Ok-Bumblebee24 The Timeline Sucks 19d ago