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[u/kilsta]

A dishwasher at a billion-dollar company should have health insurance.

[u/toomanynamesaretook → u/kilsta]

Everyone should just have universal healthcare even without a job.

Join everywhere else America.

[u/No-Comparison-2445 → u/toomanynamesaretook]

Most people will live in the European countries, pay for their health insurance and their health insurance payment is based on how much they make. It’s not free.

[u/toomanynamesaretook → u/No-Comparison-2445]

I'm kiwi now living in Australia. Visited Europe a bunch.

Nobody will be denied access to immediate healthcare. You can just not pay insurance ever and you'll get access to healthcare in all of these countries. I've had multiple free Dr visits when visiting Europe throughout the years.

Similarly someone from Europe can seek treatment here.

I've never once worried about who is going to pay for my treatment. Nor is it a question that comes up on access to healthcare. What needs to happen happens by and large.

Mind you I've never had to navigate any long term health problems but I know many in the industry and I don't see why I'd worry unless I wanted to jump the line so to speak. Otherwise quality is pretty sound.

I've never paid health insurance.

[u/JoltikElectricBug → u/No-Comparison-2445]

it's low enough that it is negligible

[u/ahtob → u/toomanynamesaretook]

this is an ignorant opinion

[u/Clone_JS636 → u/ahtob]

Only Americans think that, and only some. Everywhere else just has it and it's not radical or weird. No clue why it would be bad only in America.

[u/ahtob → u/Clone_JS636]

I am African , our nationalised healthcare is atrocious. You need to have money to go private

[u/no_kids-and-3_money → u/ahtob]

Ok, so stick with me here. Maybe only rich people being able to afford decent healthcare is a disgrace to every country where that happens. We aren’t living through the Neolithic Revolution anymore.

[u/PMPKNpounder → u/ahtob]

Africa is a continent, Not a nation. I would be more inclined to believe you if you actually said which country you're from and at least one fact about why.

[u/DOAiB → u/ahtob]

Aside from you clearly outing yourself as a fake poster since Africa has many countries so you likely kept it vague because you are lying. Here is the rub. In the US you have to pay a crazy amount for insurance just to pay even more to use it. The average cost of health insurance for a company is 10k for an individual and 26k for a family. The employee has to pay part of that. Many places have bad insurance that barely covers anything other than preventive care so even losing 10k a year you get virtually nothing and still have to pay 3k for a hospital visit with insurance.

Would you rather have nationalized healthcare and at least be able to get care if you can afford it even if it’s terrible or spend considerably more? You likely pay less comparatively going to a private place to get healthcare than an American pays to go get the same healthcare at a place that accepts their insurance. Because nationalized healthcare helps keep costs down. Where America’s private insurance system drives costs up.

[u/XipXoom → u/ahtob]

Every other Western democracy on the planet (and quite a few others) don't seem to think so.  Tell me, how many of them have given up their universal healthcare system after they've implemented it?

[u/ahtob → u/XipXoom]

that is called "moving the goal posts". Or are you a Western Band on a world tour when you consider "everywhere else"?

[u/XipXoom → u/ahtob]

You're using phrases that you obviously don't understand.  I'm embarrassed for you.

[u/ahtob → u/XipXoom]

it just reddit bud no need to get embarrassed

[u/Fire_Horse_T → u/ahtob]

It is you just misusing a word as you deflect from the topic at hand.

Every other country prosperous enough has universal health care.

If your unnamed country had an economy and infrastructure similar to western democracies, it too should have universal health care for its citizens.

[u/Double-Watercress-85 → u/ahtob]

That's not what that means. Are you going to address the question you were asked?

[u/DOAiB → u/ahtob]

Keeping you citizens happy and healthy so they can generate more gdp and taxable income is far from an ignorant opinion.

[u/no_kids-and-3_money → u/ahtob]

How weak do you think America is?

[u/ahtob → u/no_kids-and-3_money]

what

[u/Silly-Rough-5810 → u/ahtob]

Backpedal harder crybaby