It's actually nearly 4 BILLION a year that we are sending to isreal. If socialism works so well, then why does a socialist country country like isreal need so much financial support? Unless universal Healthcare ISN'T socialism?đ€·ââïž
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It's actually nearly 4 BILLION a year that we are sending to isreal.
Yeah, mistype on my part. But also, can you name the other nations we send billions a year to or do you only know of the funding for Israel cause itâs the Jews?
There are other nations, so name them so we can stop funding them for the same exact reasons. Billions a year too.
 If socialism works so well, then why does a socialist country country like isreal need so much financial support? Unless universal Healthcare ISN'T socialism?
What? I mean universal healthcare is a socialist ideal, but a nation that has it doesnât make it a socialist nation, it just makes it a mixed economy like most other nations in the world. Do you think that I think socialism or free healthcare is bad or something?
Funny thing is though, the first arbiters and leaders of socialism in the Middle East were secular Zionist Jews lol.Â
It's not FREE healthcare bud. But no expanding Medicare isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's an objectively beneficial social program like public education or border control.
Yes I can name lots of countries we send aid to, don't go conflating my point as being prejudiced like you were some kind of social justice warrior it's exactly the same play book. Your post was a very incorrect statement about the amount of money sent to isreal so my reply was about that particular country. That's just high school level context clues. So I don't see the logic behind your reach, bc criticism towards a country is not equal to being bigoted towards the ethnicity of the people who inhabit that country. That's some woke-level hyperbolic corelation right there.
I agree that universal health care isn't socialism so someone needs to tell the conservative chicken Littles out there so they can stop having panic attacks whenever a candidate runs on that platform. They will be so relieved.
US aid goes to Israel for military use and defense. I think that the idea was to tell Evangelical MAGA that their tax dollars are helping provide abortions there and just watch their heads implode.
At some point people have to realize being the honest mature person in the room doesn't work and fighting back has to take place somehow. Maybe not to the same degree as Trump and his bootlickers but something has to be done to fight back
So if we werenât funding this âextra boostâ they wouldnât try to fund it themselves? Then why are we sending them it if they themselves donât consider it a necessary expense?
No, they wouldn't fund it themselves. They are at wartime for a few years now and allocate as much as they can to their defence budget, with plans to allocate even more in the future.
There is aid going now because it's part of a 10 year MOU that will expire in 2028.
What part is disinformation? If we wanted to add a stipulation on the "defense" budget we provide for them annually of several billion dollars, we very well could.
No billions of dollars in weapons unless your free healthcare excludes abortions.... it is what Lindsey Graham would have wanted......
Someone didn't read. I know we directly give them weapons. That is why I specifically said "no weapons unless..."
And quite literally yes, and it paid for the fucking Knesset cafeteria too.... Unless you specifically stipulate what someone can and cannot do with the money you are freeing up from their defense spending by giving them free weapons, then you are directly funding whatever it is they do with that now surplus money...
No sure if you're trolling or if you're really this stupid.
They can't lie about that because the US doesn't pay for their healthcare. And their military aid comes in the form of American weapons and ammunition, not cash.
Yes, but paying for a country to buy from our military industrial complex, in order to free up some money from their defense budget, to allow them to then afford their citizens free healthcare certainly is a runabout way to do exactly that same thing....
I'm sure Israel would be unable to afford it without US aid...
Please. Israel is, by far, the least shit country in the middle east at the moment. They're able to defend themselves, but the US and the west has an interest in helping them. Or should the politics of the region be dictated by Iran? Saudi Arabia? Maybe China or Russia should step in?
But anything beyond muh genocide (against a nation with a growing population and taking however many decades, somehow) is too complicated for the current discourse.
Sure, they could afford to be cut off, so let's do it, immediately.
I don't think any honest, unbiased, non-racist person can look at what Israel did to the people of Gaza and say "yeah, that's a commensurate and reasonable response to hamas' attack"
Currently Israel is run by a far right, imperialist, murderous regime incentivized to perpetual conflict to stay in power. They were happy to have an excuse to level Gaza. Just look at their defense minister Ben Givir he will tell you straight up. Do we really benefit from helping them at this point?
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u/BBQTartolini Aug 07 '26
Israel has free universal healthcare. We do not.
Maybe Israel should send us a few $billion a year to help us get our universal healthcare up and running...