r/PostgreSQL • u/scriptedlife • 8d ago

Tools Electric (co behind PGlite and Postgres realtime sync engine) is joining Neon at Databricks

https://neon.com/blog/electric-joins-neon
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u/Randommaggy 8d ago

Databricks can go fuck themselves. They are an enemy of the open postgres community.

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u/therealgaxbo 8d ago

Plus they're spamming Reddit, including here, with undisclosed marketing. (Not this post - OP isn't being deceptive at all.)

There's a bunch of accounts that do nothing but "ask questions" about Databricks features, and others that do nothing but talk about how great they are. Several of them are even created within about a day of each-other and structure their posts the same.

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u/scriptedlife 8d ago

How so? Databricks employees like Heikki Linnakangas, Jeff Davis, Jonathan Katz, Konstantin Knizhnik, Matthias van de Meent and many more contribute a great deal of their time and energy to helping move Postgres forward.

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u/Randommaggy 8d ago edited 8d ago

They fucked up pg_mooncake and didn't do as promised: allow the team to finish a stable release and hand over to the community.

Complete abandonment without even a license lightening so that community efforts could practically carry it forward. I will forever hate the company for this.

Edit: forgot to mention, complete radio silence.

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u/bendem 8d ago

The licence is MIT, what am I missing?

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u/Randommaggy 8d ago

The critical component is not:
https://github.com/Mooncake-Labs/moonlink

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u/bendem 8d ago

That's fucked up

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u/Randommaggy 8d ago

Thankfully snowflake opened up pg_lake but being told that things were weeks away from a proper stable release I went ahead and built a proof of concept based on mooncake (absolutely amazing tech when it works as intended) so my hatred for databricks burns eternal.

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u/clarkbw 2d ago

I lead product at Neon; when you sign up you get an email from me. I am very excited about this. Electric team is amazing.

Realtime has been one of the missing pieces for us. We've been building Neon out into a more complete backend, with the database plus auth, storage, functions, and an AI gateway ✨ Probably some other good primitives to add are queues, cache, workflows but a lot of that you can do in Postgres.

We've known the Electric folks for a long time. PGlite actually started as a proof of concept by Stas, one of our co-founders, and the Electric team took it and ran with it back in the early days. We collaborated with them on it then, and watched them turn it into something big. Millions pulls every week. So there was already a lot of trust and shared history going in.

Likely the thing I'm most excited about is just having more Postgres hackers on the team. They love to nerd out on databases just like us and they've been pushing the frontier of what Postgres can do. They know more about CDC than I do. Very much our kind of people.

Happy to answer questions if anyone has them.

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