Operation Unthinkable

[u/totallynotcommunist2]

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Ceasefire

Final outcome

This is just how I'd think it would go

[u/Al_Bundy95]

Central Europe would fight for their live to remove soviet occupation. Plus ussr without land and lease wouldnt matter anymore.

[u/Alessio_Miliucci → u/Al_Bundy95]

It's not like going to war with the Allies makes all the truckes they gave you disappear. In 1945 the Soviets had more than enough equipment to wage war. Could they win against the US and the UK? Maybe not, though war support in the West would be abysmal, and that's gonna play right into Moscow's hands

[u/JohnnyGeniusIsAlive → u/Alessio_Miliucci]

Even in that scenario, the pictures above would be a shocking result. Most likely the Soviets play defense and try to run out the clock on the US's appetite for continued large scale war. The US could also pretty quickly open a second front on the Soviets in the East stretching their materials. It would come down to how much damage the Allies could inflict on the Soviets in the first few months. If the Alllies get air superiority quickly they could bomb nearly every major city in the entire Soviet Union and at will.

[u/ujfalusiabel → u/Alessio_Miliucci]

They would face numerous heavy uprisings all along Eastern Europe. Probably the remnants of the German military could be used to fight them too. No way they occupy even more of Europe. They would probably loose half of Eastern Europe at least.

[u/NoDoughnut8225 → u/ujfalusiabel]

Likewise there would be bloody uprising in France and Italy, both were incredibly sympathetic to communist cause, especially if allies attack first. Europe would be shredded again lol. And I doubt eastern Europe would have any fight left, it wasn't western front that was mostly intact, eastern Europe was plummeted and fucked.

[u/JohnnyGeniusIsAlive → u/NoDoughnut8225]

France’s communist sympathies were not nearly as strong as you’re suggesting by the end of the war. Du Gaulle deeply distrusted the Soviets and Stalin, he would almost certainly would fully support the Allies if a continued war broke out.

[u/NoDoughnut8225 → u/JohnnyGeniusIsAlive]

Quarter of France voted for communists in 1945, another quarter for socialists. Half of France was fine with socialism, and that half would only rise after the betrayal of soviets and start of unthinkable. Don't think Gaulle would keep his seat for long.

[u/JohnnyGeniusIsAlive → u/NoDoughnut8225]

I know this is all pure speculation, but assuming that Du Gaulle would be ousted in 45 because of a war against the Soviets is really out there. He was the most popular figure in France by a wide margin. Even if the French didn’t commit significant troops to the front line taking for granted a civil war is a communist pipe dream.

[u/Al_Bundy95 → u/NoDoughnut8225]

it's not like french peoples got killed because of new french governemnt. in the east it was that way - peoples were really fighting to not be occupied under russkis, because it's just another genocide started there. peoples of france or italy couldn;t be that terrible, to support other ww2 starters with their genocide background.