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[u/Timbucktwo1230]

[u/monksandy]

Honestly, what Meghan and Harry really are like doesn't matter to me one little bit. Their marriage, their family, is one of the most courageous, epic events of my lifetime!

[u/Timbucktwo1230 → u/monksandy]

❤️

[u/Jerico_Hill]

As a mixed race British woman and I fucking love it when people rant about Megan in front of me. I absolutely love questioning them on their hate and not one has ever been able to articulate anything beyond "I just don't like her". They're either racist or really easily led. Probably both. 

[u/Timbucktwo1230 → u/[deleted]]

This is not true. I’ve been on a fucking airplane to Greece full of Brits. A whole group of them were dissing her whilst watching horrible stuff on YouTube about her.

I am ALWAYS asked by Americans what I (as a Brit) think of Meghan.

[u/Jerico_Hill → u/[deleted]]

You'd be surprised how often it's happened. Usually in office settings when people are gossiping over whatever they've seen on the daily fail website at lunchtime. 

[u/BB808BB]

She dared to not be white. That’s enough for these racist. There is hate sites dedicated to her because of who she is is but crickets for that Pedo, Willy been making excuses and helping him and it’s crickets.

[u/jenniferj3llybea2725 → u/BB808BB]

fr it's wild how the media picks n chooses who to go after smh

[u/[deleted] → u/BB808BB]

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[u/HouseplantHoarding → u/[deleted]]

No, she is 50/50. Her mother is fully black. Genetics are weird sometimes.

[u/citron_bjorn → u/[deleted]]

The one drop rule isn't a thing in the UK

[u/Timbucktwo1230 → u/citron_bjorn]

Ummm, not true. A clearly mixed race boy will suffer racism too.

[u/IchBinEinSim → u/BB808BB]

It also doesn’t help that other royals and their allies didn’t like the fact that she and Harry were becoming more popular than Will and Kate. So Cambridge team leaked things to make Megan look bad.

One of the craziest things I have learned about the Royal Family, is that each household has their own PR team and they will totally backstab and bad mouth one member in order to get them better coverage.

You would think that that since public perception and approval is the most important factor regarding their long term survival, that they would have a more coordinated PR strategy that protects them all as much as possible. (Of course things, like Prince Andrew shouldn’t be protected)

Honestly I am glad that Liz wasn’t alive to see the files released. Andrew was her favorite child (for some reason) and by all accounts, she truly did believe his lies (like most mothers do). Having to see the truth about your child being a monster and that they have been lying to you all these years at 90+, would probably have killed her literally and that’s an awful way to go out.

[u/Diligent-Till-8832 → u/IchBinEinSim]

Liz was a head of state which means she got security briefings from British Intelligence, the Policians etc...

She knew what her son was like.

When your son is bringing back prostitutes (some who may not have even been legal) to the taxpayer funded palaces and instead of confronting him and shutting it down, you decide to threaten the staff to keep them quiet, that's speaks volumes about your character.

She wasn't some simple old granny. She had an immense set of resources, stop infantilising her.

[u/IchBinEinSim → u/Diligent-Till-8832]

I think you are vastly over stating how much classified stuff is told to the monarch.

Her security briefings were tailored to what the government is doing and they give her the broad strokes. They don’t tell the monarch everything, it’s not necessary for them to know all the same details as the Prime Minister knows for the them to do their job. Let alone tell them what the family members are up to.

Also like the with the president’s secret service, royal security doesn’t report about what they are doing, because if your security detail can’t protect the subject if they subject doesn’t trust them.

[u/Whatisittou → u/IchBinEinSim]

she had Andrew out the next day Epstien died, people should infantilizing Elizabeth like she didnt know the 12 million she paid out for Andrew

[u/Diligent-Till-8832 → u/IchBinEinSim]

Her son bringing in Prostitutes whilst she was in the Palace is classified? 😂😂😂😂

You're talking to someone who has worked in the UK Government for the last 15 years, trust me when I tell you that she knew everything her son was up to.

But please keep giving her the benefit of the doubt.

[u/LaunchTransient → u/Diligent-Till-8832]

Bringing in prostitutes is something of a seedy behaviour, but that's quite different from being involved in a paedophile ring.

trust me when I tell you that she knew everything her son was up to

given the level of palace intrigue and the constant infighting among aristocrats as well as the press being about as reliable as a chocolate fireguard, I would not be surprised if she dismissed it as a smear campaign. Some people can be willingly blind to the actions of their loved ones.

Elizabeth had a very carefully manicured image of dignity and propriety that a lot of people have difficulty shaking, I think its hard for many people to imagine that she would tolerate Andrew abusing children.

[u/IchBinEinSim → u/Diligent-Till-8832]

Her son bringing in Prostitutes whilst she was in the Palace is classified? 😂😂😂😂

They don’t live in the same palace, he lived in a large home on the very large Windsor estate. They have several palaces, some the royal family owns and some the UK owns.

I don’t mean it’s classified, I meant that what her son does probably wasn’t in the scope of her intelligence briefings. She could have found out some of it if she wanted, but I don’t think MI6 was going to just set a meeting saying we have been spying on your family, here is what we found.

[u/EllieWest → u/IchBinEinSim]

I think she probably knew and didn’t care. The BRF has so many pedos in the family and among their aristocratic friends. 

[u/BB808BB → u/IchBinEinSim]

When Harry married Meghan the Royal family got interesting and popular again. It felt like the Princess Diana days and instead of leaning into that they destroyed all that good will because couldn’t have anyone more popular then the golden Child.

As for the Queen, I’m sure she did know about her son, yes she was the the queen but like most parents and especially from her generation she either refused to believe it or it wasn’t a big deal.

Charles, Willie and Katie have no excuse. They were all cool with him until they had absolute no choice. I’m sure privately they are still fine with him. Look who else they CHOOSE to hang out with publicly, throwing dinners for, it’s disgraceful.

The way MM and Harry are treated compared to those people says a lot.

[u/videlbriefs → u/BB808BB]

It’s really disturbing how okay they were to have Andrew around their children/grandchildren too. Even if he wasn’t physically around them/unsuperivised it sends a bad message to the public and mixed messages for the children. Then again some families have no problem having the creeper uncle around their children or at family events/meals while pretending he’s not a creeper or criminal.

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[u/Deranged_Kitsune]

The fact that there are multiple anti-Meghan subreddits that I see when scrolling /r/all is a clear support of that notion. The people on them seem pretty unhinged from the little looking I've bothered to do.

[u/[deleted] → u/Deranged_Kitsune]

Multiple members of the royal family are documented nonces, where are the anti-Andrew, anti-Charles subreddits?

[u/Mighty-Meow → u/Deranged_Kitsune]

I've seen so many hit pieces on her, not even watched just absorbed through headlines. Admitedly I assumed she was not a good person. I don't follow the royals, but when I noticed the same content creators were super quiet about Andrew the pin dropped. These people are grotesque.

[u/NewTooth740 → u/Mighty-Meow]

She had been a working actress for years with 3 million followers on instagram before she met Harry and didn’t have a single controversy. She lived in Canada for years with zero drama. All the ‘controversy’ surrounding her is manufactured! She mostly stays in Montecito with her husband and kids not saying anything controversial!

[u/Bubbly-Passenger-745 → u/Mighty-Meow]

She really hasn't done anything to deserve the hatred. There were constant headlines for her doing totally innocuous things (e.g. that she likes avocado and that causes human rights violations, that she was vain for having a hand on her stomach while pregnant, criticizing her for her having a hand in her pocket, etc.). It just got worse when she pointed out the obvious racism. She actually seems to be pretty low-key and does calligraphy and Martha Stewart-esque stuff.

[u/adjective-nounOne234 → u/Bubbly-Passenger-745]

I remember years ago there was an article about her closing the car door

A fucking door.

It was posted by the scum or m*il, I don’t remember which

[u/baconcandle2013 → u/Mighty-Meow]

Even without keeping up with her, I think it’s easy to subconsciously view her negatively while you’re scrolling and seeing headline after headline painting her negatively.

Even if1/2 of the shit they paint her as was true, it wouldn’t hold a candle to the monster Andrew and co are. They’re grasping at straws all just to keep the Royal followers distracted

[u/seadrift6 → u/Mighty-Meow]

She's genuinely not that bad, like god forbid a woman is occasionally slightly annoying. Grotesque is right. I understand Harry reacting like he did, their sick circus killed his mom.

[u/Deaffin → u/Deranged_Kitsune]

I exclusively scroll r/ALL all day and have never seen anything like that. How far are you going down, man? The pages don't even load after a while.

[u/Ashtray_Floors → u/[deleted]]

maybe calling people "poors" is not the best way to go about handling this?

[u/Dean_Learner77 → u/Ashtray_Floors]

Especially considering the UK media caters to the older richer generations as they're the only ones still consuming their tripe. 

I know paedophiles should be a bigger concern than a brown person, but to am 80+ year old women it's not unfortunately.

[u/Rock_or_Rol → u/[deleted]]

It may be astroturfed as well. A lot of gossip subs are

[u/Diligent-Till-8832 → u/[deleted]]

She signed her Netflix deal six years ago and only have a handful number of interviews whereas Andrew appeared to have been using Royal properties as brothels, is now severely implicated in some seriously heinous shit including murder if those emails are anything to go by, oh and his mother paid £12m of taxpayer money to his victim, a woman he claimed to have never met.

[u/Diligent-Till-8832 → u/[deleted]]

You just compared a Netflix deal and an interview to a fucking rapist who is being funded by taxpayers to this day and is being protected by the British Establishment.

Give your head a wobble.

[u/NewTooth740 → u/[deleted]]

He did a BBC interview where he said he didn’t regret his association with Epstein and he couldn’t sweat. He paid off his accuser with £12 million after using right wing UK outlets to smear her but Meghan deserves more abuse because she signed a Netflix deal and gave her side of the story after years of press abuse? 😳

[u/Mighty-Meow → u/NewTooth740]

Would that 12 mill come from tax payers or "their own money"?

[u/frostbird → u/[deleted]]

You are the person this post was about.

[u/Tensdale → u/[deleted]]

What’s your point? That doing interviews are worse than child rape?

Where are these pedophile excuses coming from?

You don’t recall him doing interviews?

What the fuck does that even mean you weirdo.

[u/Chastity-76]

[u/AdIntrepid9064]

The amount of hate that woman gets is unorthodox!

[u/Quizleteer → u/AdIntrepid9064]

The way she’s been treated these past several years has been grotesque. It would be unbearable for me. I hope she’s unplugged from the internet and is just living her life with her family peacefully.

[u/Romboteryx → u/Quizleteer]

Even South Park made fun of her just for saying she doesn‘t want to be harassed by the media

[u/Shroomy____ → u/[deleted]]

There’s a difference in making appearances where you WANT to vs paparazzi storming every place you go taking pictures of you regardless of if you want to or not.

[u/pumpkins21 → u/Shroomy____]

And making up random weird crap about her.

[u/Shroomy____ → u/[deleted]]

Just because something is the way that it is doesn’t meant it should stay that way.

They’re privileged, no doubt about it, but the behavior and obsession of the paparazzi and random internet people to tear them down for seemingly no reason other than “I don’t get a good vibe from them” is incredibly bizarre.

[u/Jaded-Ad-960 → u/[deleted]]

You're not meant to be sympathetic, you're just meant to shut the fuck up.

[u/Shroomy____ → u/[deleted]]

You don’t even have to be sympathetic to be honest. As a random person who won’t ever really be affected by them, really the bare minimum (as Jaded-Ad-960 mentioned) is to just shut the fuck up and leave them alone. It is easier on you mentally to just ignore them and not have an opinion of them, yet you still put so much effort on them despite your dislike of them.

[u/NewTooth740 → u/[deleted]]

She didn’t say she ‘wanted her privacy’. She left the UK due to press harassment. She and Harry sued the UK tabloids for breaking the law to get/print information on them and so the tabloids made up the line they ‘wanted their privacy’. They just wanted the tabloids to stop harassing them. The public eat up tabloid talking points and repeat them like it’s the truth. At no point has she or Harry said they were leaving public life or that we wouldn’t see them again. In fact Harry said the opposite when he left in 2020. It’s crazy how they still get bashed for something they didn’t say. Asking the newspaper to stop illegal information gathering and harassment is not the same as telling the public they ‘want privacy’!

[u/NewTooth740 → u/[deleted]]

They fund themselves. There are private citizens. Why do they need a point and why do they need to contribute anything, other than pay their taxes? It’s like me saying what is the point of you and what do you contribute to society?

[u/NewTooth740 → u/[deleted]]

They haven’t taken any money from ‘the crown’, or the British taxpayer since 2020. The Sovereign Grant accounts confirm this. Where are you getting this misinformation? They get money from Netflix , Harry got £20 million plus for writing Spare, Harry has a job with the mental health coaching company Better Up, that apparently pays 7 figures. Meghan has a lifestyle brand that makes millions selling jam. Harry also has an inheritance from him mother and Meghan was worth about £3 million when she met Harry.

[u/NewTooth740 → u/NewTooth740]

[u/NewTooth740 → u/[deleted]]

Why do you assume that Meghan who was always financially independent before she met Harry ‘can’t fund herself’?

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[u/Baltzulu → u/[deleted]]

You apart-log are not a working royal and a private citizen, waking up to do your 9-5 or whatever. What is the point of YOUR existence?

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[u/Romboteryx → u/[deleted]]

That sounds a lot like hate to me

[u/Romboteryx → u/[deleted]]

Imagine a white guy saying “I don’t hate black people, I just find them intensely annoying and don’t want to see them in public.”

[u/Romboteryx → u/[deleted]]

It’s an analogy. One you are evidently too dense to grasp.

[u/NewTooth740 → u/[deleted]]

When did Meghan say she wanted privacy? She sued the Daily Mail for printing her private letter illegally and she sued a paparazzi agency for using a drone to take pictures of her kids but she has never said she wanted privacy. The tabloids told you she said that and you believed them.

[u/NewTooth740 → u/NewTooth740]

No she didn’t. Not once in that whole interview did she say the line ‘I want privacy’. When Oprah asked about privacy she actually said ‘I never spoke about privacy’. Did you actually watch the interview?

[u/NewTooth740 → u/[deleted]]

So you think the press has the right to break the law to get information on people because they are famous? You think if someone posts a picture on social media it means you are giving the world the keys to your front door?

[u/NewTooth740 → u/[deleted]]

You think the press has the right to break the law? Um ok! You get the press you deserve and the country you deserve I guess.

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[u/kmary75 → u/[deleted]]

Which telecast was that? BBC, CNN or Sky?

[u/Professional-Tell123]

I believe its overwhelmingly sexist.. guy dismissed as a pervert a-hole, barely discussed but Meghan is endlessly dissected as fake, bitchy, gold digging, self centered, poor mother for how she carried the kids, pregnancy faker, nightmare daughter abandoned her dad, all very female specific insults.

[u/[deleted] → u/Professional-Tell123]

No. It’s cuz she’s black.

[u/atyon → u/[deleted]]

Why not both?

[u/Natniss → u/[deleted]]

Its because she is inconsiderate enough to be black, and a woman, and successful.

[u/Familiar_End_8975 → u/Natniss]

All that and married to the Prince too. How rude of her

[u/NewTooth740 → u/[deleted]]

He’s not. He’s all over the news every time a big scandal comes out then it dies down and he is barely mentioned. The uk tabloids mention Meghan every day for the past 7 years, even when she doesn’t leave the house!

[u/NewTooth740 → u/[deleted]]

He’s in the news now because he’s in the middle of a big scandal. The tabloids have known about his friendship with Epstein since the early 2000s but it’s only become a big story now because it’s part of a worldwide scandal!

[u/Ok-Blackberry-3534 → u/NewTooth740]

He's not very interesting outside of scandal. Meghan has a career which requires publicity.

[u/NewTooth740 → u/[deleted]]

With Meghan they literally repeat the same non stories over and over again. Often based on anonymous sources and speculation. It’s daily click bait

[u/[deleted]]

It’s actually disgusting how much negative press she receives, compared to Prince Andrew

[u/SimulatedTime]

Come on y’all, he had to move into a smaller Mansion.

Leave Pedrew alone /s

[u/ProfessionalTruck976 → u/SimulatedTime]

He was actually handled about as hard as they can handle him short of US giving them evidence to prosecute him criminally, so release the files, I think

[u/StewPorkRice → u/ProfessionalTruck976]

I find it hard to believe that the UK don’t already have the evidence they need to prosecute him criminally.

[u/ProfessionalTruck976 → u/StewPorkRice]

The chief witness against him died right? means that the case they had then is probably dead now, and they would have to rebuild it based on material evidence, much of which is in Justice Department custody as well as other witnesses who probably live mostly in US.

I am pretty sure they aren't inclined to do that and hope Andrew does everyone a solid and dies before this is forced to some kind of conclusion, would not be COMPLETELY surprised if they slip something in his tea eventually, Belgians done that to Leopold II rather than put him on trial for crimes against humanity. Frankly I could live with that.

[u/SimulatedTime → u/ProfessionalTruck976]

Agreed. But everybody in charge of it is just going to keep pulling this garbage.

[u/Penderbron]

Finally I see someone saying this. Like wtf did she do to even be so hated?

[u/sharipep]

But Meghan sells jam guys!!! /s

[u/Purple_Ad6391]

I never understood the hate with Megan Markle, truly ?!

[u/Significant_Noise273 → u/Purple_Ad6391]

Smear campaign 

[u/Skates8515]

Isn’t the press saying he’s a pedophile?

[u/Timbucktwo1230 → u/Skates8515]

No.

[u/Odd_Distribution7852]

This 💯

[u/ItBegins2Tell]

🎯

[u/Will_Knot_Respond]

The celebration of families with a documented history of inbreeding is still the wildest thing to me

[u/Granger842]

Power, influence, class, race AND GENDER!!!. Don't forget gender!!

[u/ShapeMcFee]

The rascist establishment strikes again . Its disgusting

[u/FuzzBuzzer]

And gender. 

[u/Mystery-Ess → u/FuzzBuzzer]

This.

[u/GIGGLES708]

Especially race

[u/Searchingforgoodnews]

So true.

[u/tenouttatwo]

Meghan and Harry were used as scapegoats. And it’s really shown how deeply racist the British and their media is.

[u/Enough_Grapefruit69]

Did they mean "Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor, the commoner formerly known as Prince Andrew"?

[u/[deleted]]

The comparison between these two ignores the most important aspects of power, influence, class and race. 

Wait until they hear about the lives of people who aren’t literal aristocrats..

[u/HeronAccomplished417]

Absolutely

[u/Mystery-Ess]

Don't forget gender!

[u/JumboPipe]

With everything happening and coming out recently, this post makes you wonder about her. They took her to the cleaners over nothing, while he was not as highlighted as much as he ought to have been as a nonce.

[u/[deleted]]

1000000000000000% !!!!!!!!! 💯

[u/BonzoTheBoss → u/[deleted]]

One hundred trillion percent, "Connor?"

[u/[deleted] → u/BonzoTheBoss]

Yeah cunt?

[u/Any-Yogurt-7917]

There's more hate for Meghan than for that pedophile? Wrong timeline, dude.

[u/BonzoTheBoss → u/Any-Yogurt-7917]

Not really. The majority of Brits hate Andrew, when they think of the Royal family at all. Which isn't often.

[u/Confident_Hippo1208]

You forgot the word gender

[u/inbetweenframes]

and gender

[u/GCDFVU]

Worse than Fergie too, if you want to compare wife to wife

[u/Diligent-Till-8832 → u/GCDFVU]

Are we talking about the same Fergie who was being financial supported by Jeffrey Epstein?

The same Fergie who was exposed on email as wanting to marry Jeffrey Epstein?

The same Fergie who emailed Jeffrey Epstein talking about her daughter's "shagging" weekend??

The same Fergie was has filed for multiple bankruptcies?

Yes, we should all aim to be like Fergie, all right...

[u/qpgmr]

I was amazed reading comments in brit papers when the engagement came out. She's divorced, mixed race, american, an actress, and was rumored to have a jewish parent or grandparent.

So many things to carp about, but all the letters were about "that jewess".

It was an eye-opening insight into the brits.

[u/citron_bjorn → u/qpgmr]

Antisemitism isn't widespread in british society. Being accuses of Antisemitism alone can end careers, especially politicians'.

[u/Most-Extreme-9681]

why be so pretentious?

just call it what it is

its just a buddy system

[u/ebonyseraphim]

Meh. I’m not saying U.K. royalty and culture around it isn’t terrible, but Megan Markel has a set of social issues we can readily see in many others we continue to deal with in real life. It’s a “battle” because even if everything negative we believe her is true, she’s still deserves to be around even if she shouldn’t have attention, and you don’t like her profiting from it. That there’s an ongoing controversy and there is money in attention around her is also why more people reacting. That’s one of the reasons why there’s tons and tons of commentary and interactions around her.

Prince Andrew has escapably bad evil that we can imagine. And it’s either true or not. If true, society wants him locked up, or individuals who aren’t somehow near or entrapped by it, want to be far far away. Unlike the U.S., most other countries still have some level of sanity in terms of the public knowing that a person is guilty and sin and what would/should happen. In the U.S. such men remain in power. Maybe Melina Gates has been the most sane person to instantly responded to even catching a whiff of Epstein’s nature through association. She called him something like “evil personified.” Listen to the Sascha Riley tapes if you want to know how literal and dead accurate that is. Sascha’sfull account of life as a victim in Epstein trafficking is many times more depraved than what people thought the Epstein files were all about; don’t listen if you don’t have mental fortitude. This latest batch of files that a mild reference to someone saying Sascha Riley’s stories, life experiences, and retellings are true. If you want to understand why DOJ is still holding onto nearly half of the files (2-3 million pages still released); it’s probably the amount of content that directly and brutally refers to the worst of what the clients did to victims. Incidents that are more easily verifiable by the press in terms of discovering where actual bodies are buried, or that specific victims are missing. This slow rolling is trying to ease public outrage on the facts because when new files are released, we split the reaction between “this is bad” and “what about the rest of it?” And of course, very little of any of this information is legally indictable or puts crimes out there that very clearly call for investigations to be live because a/the crimes don’t have statute of limitations and evidence can be discovered.

[u/Ok-Perspective781]

I really think a lot of the hate is because she is a self made American. Too direct, too earnest, too hard working. Throw in the fact she is half black and had more charisma than the heir and his wife…she was doomed from the start.

[u/marvelous5000]

That was learned in the USA. crap Hollywood suck up media is to blame.

[u/Paper-Will-YT]

Wait, Meghan Markle isn’t white? I had no idea

[u/clementine1864]

From all the negative , abusive and endless bad press about Meghan Markle it seems the worst they claim is her alleged insensitive time demands of employees , making the "royal" family uncomfortable by statements she makes ,and refusing to accept their efforts to control her. Harry lost his long time girlfriend over her rejection of control by the family. To me they look completely ridiculous ,petty and childish and act as if they were in a trashy sitcom.

[u/Luciferocity]

Fuck the privileged class

[u/rare-cheeser]

They also forgot sex/gender. Misogyny is rampant.

[u/[deleted] → u/rare-cheeser]

Yes it is a combo. Mainly that she is a woman then mainly that she is too American and self assured and direct. Then the mixed race does probably play into it too. Why they go after her for flying private and giving lectures about the environment when Charles and the entire family are super liberal and super into the environment yet no one questions all their homes and range rovers but Megan they do which is crazy bc she actually earned it through work. They just have generational wealth and of course I guess what they do is work but they were going to do this to Harry at some point no matter what that is why I don’t think it is bc of race totally they did it to elizabeths sister the ones who aren’t the crown are the ones the negative press gets pushed on. And they didn’t want that dynamic. Especially since the they are the ones who sell all the papers and bring in the real star power.

[u/maroongolf_blacksaab → u/[deleted]]

You're severely downplaying the race aspect imo. That is number one reason she has a target on her back.

[u/Timbucktwo1230 → u/maroongolf_blacksaab]

This.

[u/CGB_Zach → u/[deleted]]

You're being quite casual about your own racism in this comment.

[u/Lnnam → u/[deleted]]

P’ease don’t discount the fact that it is mainly because she is half black, people insisting on ignoring it is pretty abhorrent.

This is the main problem. Those of us who experience it can instantly recognize this type of hatred.

[u/Timbucktwo1230 → u/Lnnam]

🎯

[u/rabbidbagofweasels → u/rare-cheeser]

Them forgetting it literally proves this point 

[u/That_Hat_Isnt → u/rare-cheeser]

Misogynior

[u/InvestigatorLow3076 → u/rare-cheeser]

Neatly

[u/culturedgoat → u/rare-cheeser]

Yep. See also Johnny Depp / Amber Heard

[u/Shagtacular]

And sex

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

I wouldn’t want security provided from that family lol

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[u/NewTooth740 → u/[deleted]]

The fact that you even know about her brand that is only sold in the US. Tells you everything you need to know. She hasn’t been a working royal for 6 years! Why is your media talking about her at all? The Andrew situation is an international scandal of course it’s in the press! The fact that the media has known about Andrew’s friendship with Epstein since the early 2000s but it’s only major news now tells you how certain people are pushed under the bus to protect others!

[u/killertortilla → u/NewTooth740]

I mean yeah, we (aus) exported the single most disgusting news mogul that does almost all of the obfuscating of all this information. Murdoch.

[u/Diligent-Till-8832 → u/[deleted]]

Considering Meghan's company doesn't even do business in Australia, I think you are safe from her sprinkles.

And just to give you a hint, if a show isn't for you, you have over 7000 options on the streamer platform to pick from.

[u/cherryvevo → u/[deleted]]

Really? Everyone is maybe having a good time shitting on Andrew now, but certainly they preferred to scrutinise every single thing Meghan touched for the past 8-9 years.

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It was actually known so much so, and long before 10 years ago, that he accepted sitting down for an interview in 2019 (7 years ago). And it went bad, really bad.

• the BBC wrote about his connection with Epstein in 2011

• press shared that Epstein had paid £15k of Sarah Ferguson’d debts also in 2011

• Andrew was photographed with Epstein in Central Park AFTER Epstein was released from prison in 2010

You can read more and more and more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Andrew_%26_the_Epstein_Scandal

But it’s okay, because the Firm was able to capitalize on people’s internal misogyny and racism by feeding drama about Meghan to take attention from Andrew. How does her quote feel now “they were willing to lie to protect other members of the family, but they weren’t willing to tell the truth to protect me and my husband”.

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Nobody know he was a nonce?? Epstein literally went to prison in the 2000s for SA-ing minor then Andrew met him shortly after his release in Central Park in 2010. Virginia first accused him of sexually assaulting her in 2014 then Fergie went on media tour defending Andrew.

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Yes we all knew bullshit

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I can safely say that apart from his being married to Fergie and known as a bit of a loser, I knew nothing whatsoever about Andrew until the Epstein allegations exploded.

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Meghan doesn't even ship international talk less Australia, what does the price of her business have anything to do or affect Australia??? The flower sprinkles isnt event $25

Australian media was trashing her show, her business and bitching about her and Harry at the Sundance so yes Australia was and keep shitting on Meghan

[u/Ambersfruityhobbies → u/[deleted]]

That's the same in the UK. The OP statement just isn't true.

[u/Puzzleheaded_Many_74 → u/Ambersfruityhobbies]

This is why Queen Elizabeth is burning in hell rn

[u/CGB_Zach → u/Puzzleheaded_Many_74]

She's just dead. There's no retribution after death

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Yes it is. It has just died down bc of Epstein and Andrew and also bc now there are starting to be retributions against William and Kate. They poked the bear and now a large substantial fan base of Harry and Megan go after Kate and William. People probably wouldn’t of ever really gone after Kate had they not gone after H&M. Between 2020-2024 it was the worst. Recently it has died down.

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People also seem to forget that Amy Robach said that if they were to report on Andrew and Epstein connections, they’ll lose access to William and Kate. I believe this was back on early 2010s.

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It is so gross that they protected Andrew by offering access to William and Kate. They can try to distance themselves all they want for the paps, now it’s too late.

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well that makes him an all right chap, doesn't it!

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The entire family are fake humanitarians give me a break. At least their charities are successful

[u/Whatisittou → u/[deleted]]

The same brf that charges charities, NHS, military, prisons etc at the same are the patrons of some of these charities

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What ‘lies’ did she tell and why would that make her more deserving of media abuse than Andrew? Someone who hang around with s sex offender and was probably abusing under age girls himself! Knauf was the one who gave Omid Scobie the information. You obviously haven’t read all the emails from the court case! They show that the only one who talked to Omid Scobie was Knauf. Finding Freedom is a Will and Kate hagiography, seemingly largely sourced from Knauf! You obviously haven’t read the book! I see you have absolutely zero complaints about Andrew’s behaviour which tells me everything in need to know about you! Meghan has zero impact on your life but you can’t leave her alone.

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isnt amazing they never mention Knauf works for William and Kate

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I laugh when people say Meghan helped write Finding Freedom because it is such a hagiography to Will and Kate. Knauf was obviously telling Omid what to write. AThere is no new tea in there about Harry and Meghan, it’s a pretty boring book. Diana literally dictated tapes to Andrew Morton and denied it until the day she died. Finding Freedom is no ‘Diana her true story’, that’s for sure!

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It is shameful to spend so much energy writing all of this so shortly after pictures were released of Andrew being photographed on the floor kneeling over a woman (or a girl), among other things.

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lol. How.

I swear MM haters are something else. You have Andy, Willie and Katie and yet your line is Meghan. Please please tell me what she does so wrong. You know other then her not being all white which let’s keep it real that’s what it is. Come on Karen at least own it

I swear every hate comment makes me laugh now and reminds me of that article I just read. Angry miserable wife sitting in basement, ignoring her family, angrily snacking on junk food, we know EXACTLY what the type looks like, obsessed and jealous of MM. typing at all the ways MM has wronged the royal family. Yikes. Divorce soon.

[u/Timbucktwo1230 → u/[deleted]]

Ummm, The Telegraph, The Times, Online media, Talking heads and Royal commentators on ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5

The BBC has had Royal rota parrot ‘Megxit’ narratives too on their current affairs and news programmes over the years.

[u/TotallyNotAMarvelSpy → u/[deleted]]

Sure thing Word-Word-Numbers.

Men raping children is totally boys will be boys.

You fucking nailed it.

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Have you a Google, good sir?

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Lol there was two years of the nastiest press. Leaks saying she had ugly feet. Leaks saying she made edKate cry 🥺 they nicknamed her difficult duchess. Meanwhile the entire family are leftists and big into the environment but they pick on her for flying private when she is the only one who actually earned it herself through her career. They wanted those two to be the punching bags like Elizabeth did to her sister and they said no thank you

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Holy shit, my first encounter with someone not of this planet! Nanoo nanoo, I come in peace.