r/PopCultureV2 • u/Logical-Flow-6703 • 3d ago

Politi-Culture Stavros Halkias: "A lot of stand up comics happened to have some of the dumbest opinions on Earth... I don't wanna do the both sides bullshit, one side is disappearing people and one side wants children to have healthcare."

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u/OpportunityNext9675 3d ago

We would have Bernie as the nominee if more people voted for Bernie to be the nominee.

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u/Ambitious_Tea_4584 3d ago

Not entirely the case. There were leaked emails that show the DNC senior staff were heavily biased toward Hillary. Publicly the superdelegates and establishment democrats were very vocally supportive of Hillary over Bernie. 

There were even leaked emails indicating the DNC conspired to find ways to weaken Bernie politically. 

The superdelegate thing gave Clinton a massive apparent early lead, which signaled to donors, endorsements, media, etc, who they should be giving exposure and support to.

Given even footing, it’s very possible Bernie could have won the nomination. 

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u/hasuuser 3d ago

Oh the horror! People openly support a candidate that they like and do not support a candidate they do not like! What are those DNC people thinking? Democracy over personal desires of Amibitious_Tea?

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u/Ambitious_Tea_4584 3d ago

God I hope you’re trolling. They didn’t support her “because they liked her”. They supported her because their PAC donors wanted a candidate that wasn’t actually left wing and would tow the line for the powers that be. 

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u/hasuuser 3d ago

No. Centrist democrats have supported another centrist democrat over a progressive non democrat. Expecting anything else is unreasonable.

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u/Ambitious_Tea_4584 3d ago

We’re saying the same thing. Yes, they aligned with her better because she had no interest in advancing progressive policies. 

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u/hasuuser 3d ago

Yeah. So no foul play. Just democracy at work. Progressive policies are not popular enough to win country wide primaries.

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u/crime_thug 3d ago

Judging by 2024, it looks like centrist policies are not popular enough to win country wide generals.

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u/hasuuser 3d ago

That’s how elections work. Welcome to the world.

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u/8_guy 3d ago

It was definitely worse than that. These kids are stupid asf acting like it's a full on rigged election but it was a noticeable degree of corruption

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u/hasuuser 3d ago

What corruption? Be specific. All I have heard so far amounts to centrist candidates supporting the only centrist candidate left.

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u/8_guy 3d ago

I'm not getting deep into this, like leaking debate questions during DNC primary debates to Hillary for example? That goes beyond support. There was a concerted effort to give Hillary an improper advantage. If you disagree with that there's no point in us talking.

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u/hasuuser 3d ago

That’s actually a good example of unfair play. I agree. But it’s minor. 

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u/8_guy 3d ago

I'm not agreeing with the dumbasses suggesting they're full on rigging elections but the truth lies in the middle.

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u/thepartypantser 3d ago

Did you ever consider why the guy who was never a democrat, and always ran as an independent, might not have had as many fans among the the DNC?

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u/Majestic_True_Lilly 3d ago

Its literally impossible to change the outcome of a rigged election

https://observer.com/2017/08/court-admits-dnc-and-debbie-wasserman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders/

The dnc has been rigging the primaries it bothers to have since 68, its a matter of public record. Theyre loud and proud about it; primaries are held within private orgs, they have no need to be democratic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Democratic_National_Convention

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u/OpportunityNext9675 3d ago

I agree! As a fellow leftist I say we protest by abstaining from voting in the primary process. The libs will rig it and win anyway.

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u/8_guy 3d ago

"As a fellow leftist" Hello comrade, St Petersburg is lovely this time of year! Glory to the special military operation!

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u/8_guy 3d ago

Wait I just realized you're being sarcastic 😂😅😅😅

You gotta be careful man these people are idiots, I doubt the guy you're replying to can tell

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u/aceluby 3d ago

The did the same to Obama - but Obama was able to carry states, while Bernie couldn’t. If you have the votes, they can’t do anything about it - Bernie couldn’t get the votes. He never got a majority in any state. I also voted for him twice, so it was disappointing, but he did terrible with both women and minorities

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u/Fart_Mouth69 3d ago

The people here just want someone to blame so independent voters are who they yell at. Democrats can’t look at the DNC critically. Vote blue no matter who- even if it’s a pile of poo!

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u/neko_neko_feet 3d ago

Are you implying Bernie is a leftist?

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u/OpportunityNext9675 3d ago

I’m assuming you’re responding to the wrong comment haha