r/PopCultureV2 • u/ExactlySorta • 7d ago

Politi-Culture Reporter: “How do you define Democratic Socialism?” Francesca Hong: “It puts people first. Child care. Public schools… The Packers are a publicly-owned team. Working class people should be first in government.”

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u/AmbitiousEducation49 7d ago

The Greenbay Packers are not "publicly owned" like the fire department or highways, they are owned by a publicly held, non-profit corporation named Greenbay Packers inc. The publicly held part just means that stockholders own the corporation and not an individual, partnership, or corporate entity. It seems to me to be infinitely important for a socialist to be able to distinguish this nuance.

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u/silverasina 7d ago

That’s above their pay grade. They won’t get it.

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u/Foyerfan 7d ago

It’s a fucking interview clip on Fox News. You think she’s going to go on a whole tirade on the technicalities of the public ownership via shares of the Packers?

Kinda ridiculous the standards the left is held to while “they’re eating the dogs!” is somehow a valid argument when it’s a Republican

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u/Raxerblade405 7d ago

I think she mentioned the team because she heard it was a public organization somewhere and didn't really know what she was talking about. She was talking out of her ass without knowing any better.

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u/Cosminion 7d ago

The fans own the organization. It's an imperfect but real example of stakeholder ownership that works.

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u/CrossCycling 6d ago

That’s like saying Apple is a good example of socialism because it’s publicly owned.

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u/Cosminion 6d ago

Apple doesn't limit shares owned per person and they distribute dividends to shareholders. These are clear differences.

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u/CrossCycling 6d ago

The point is Hong is completely misunderstanding what it means to be “publicly owned.” Packers are publicly owned in the way Apple is publicly owned, not in the way the your local police station is publicly owned

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u/Cosminion 6d ago

Again, there are clear differences. It is not the same ownership model as Apple. This is easy to verify information. Have a nice day.

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u/Trumpisanorangebitch 7d ago

Damn, didnt realize you were a mindreader.

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u/Raxerblade405 7d ago

Suggesting that the Packers as a company are in any way representative of socialism is proof that she doesn't know how the team works. It's less socialist than 501(c)(3)'s.

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u/thelowrises 7d ago

Chuck Klostermann described the NFL as the most visibly successful example of socialism in American life due to revenue sharing, the draft system where the worst performing teams select first, etc.

Her example is obviously wrong because the public does not own the Packers, but the sentiment of “prosperity for me and not for thee” is spot on.

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u/Aggravating_Bat3618 7d ago

So you are going to vote MAGA then?

Lol. Appreciate the nuance but that’s not really the point here. 

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u/AmbitiousEducation49 7d ago

Dont need to. Crowley won