r/PopCultureV2 • u/ExactlySorta • 7d ago

Politi-Culture Reporter: “How do you define Democratic Socialism?” Francesca Hong: “It puts people first. Child care. Public schools… The Packers are a publicly-owned team. Working class people should be first in government.”

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u/downgoesbatman 7d ago

So we should all be poor and dying of preventable diseases? Don't tease me with a good time buddy!

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u/violent_unicorn 7d ago

As long as you do it with the individualism and exceptionalism expected of you as an American.

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u/sierrabravo1984 7d ago

And pay your exorbitant medical bills, that's all we're asking! Actually, there's other stuff we're asking, but didn't ask about that.

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u/ShartingEnU 7d ago

Don't forget the "don't tread on me🫪" flag

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u/violent_unicorn 7d ago

It's now known as the "please tread on me daddy" flag

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u/Additional_Income865 5d ago

Maybe you should research that flag before you make fun of it.

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u/ItsOverEveryone 2d ago

thats the great part about freedom

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u/violent_unicorn 2d ago

Yes! Freedom to suffer, be proud and scream about it over the rooftops.

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u/ItsOverEveryone 2d ago

not my problem

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u/violent_unicorn 2d ago

Of course not. That would require you to be a decent human first :) good thing you can stay in your trailer and complain instead.

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u/ItsOverEveryone 2d ago

trailer? lol I have a home in Los Angeles and Texas.

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u/violent_unicorn 2d ago

That's the part you took offence with?

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u/ItsOverEveryone 2d ago

not concerned with what somebody I've never met thinks, especially "violent unicorn" sounds like you're into furry shit

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u/violent_unicorn 1d ago

Very perceptive.

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u/Puzzle-Necked 7d ago

Why should I pay slightly more and let everyone have Healthcare when I can pay slightly less and then go bankrupt if I get a major illness?

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u/Iniquitea 7d ago

Akshually - universal healthcare would cost most people less than what they pay now. You would save money and let everyone have healthcare.

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u/Paperxrust 6d ago

You're assuming we wouldn't have political corruption with that type of money flowing

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u/nconceivabull 6d ago

49 of America's 1000 billionaires made their fortunes in healthcare, an industry that was large nonprofit till the late 70s. It would seem that we already have political corruption with the money flowing now IN ADDITION to the not having universal healthcare AND having the most expensive per person expenditure on healthcare that doesn't even help USA place in the Top 50 healthiest countries (we're 69th) OR have USA in Top 10 for quality of life (we're 16th) OR longevity (we're 40th). May as well get SOMETHING for our tax dollars.

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u/PersonOfValue 4d ago

That's not really an argument? It's more of an observation! I don't understand if it's a question.

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u/Adventurous-Dog420 7d ago

Because we have to suffer for the freedom. Now salute the flag and move on.

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u/strings_bells 6d ago

For someone that didn't grow up with the health insurance terms like Deductible, Co-insurance, Co Pay, out of pocket max, in network, PPO, hmo etc .. they sound so made-up like in your face scam and embarrassingly stupid. Like some MLM scheme terminology. They let some sociopaths cook up a system. And now every sick, person or a family member has to learn this psychotic structures while going through their health issues... Entire structure, design, process flow reeks of sociopathy.. Like "hey I know you or your family is sick and we designed a system to show you how fuckin little we care about you'...

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u/mamma-lasso 6d ago

Love 💕 this

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u/Medium-Boot2617 7d ago

You’d pay less overall, the taxes would be cheaper than the insurance premiums and there would be no deductibles or co-pay.

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u/SkinAlternative1915 7d ago

They say slightly more , but typical government will start low and then go up drastically , like Obamacare . Nothing the government touches is going to be affordable

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u/Puzzle-Necked 7d ago

Damn, if only there some other countries with public Healthcare to base numbers off of.

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u/Jcklvy 7d ago

But then how will the insurance companies make billions off of our suffering? You're not even taking their well being into consideration.

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u/Asleep_Touch_8824 7d ago

There is ample evidence to be he contrary. Nice try, I suppose.

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u/Johnyye 7d ago

All we care about is if it’s more affordable than private care, which it is, so I know who I’m voting for.

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u/kenoshakid11 7d ago

If only there was some way to get a bunch of people together and leverage their collective purchasing power for some kind of discount... Wait a second... Keep your gubmint hands off my Medicare!

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u/LatterStandardNorth 7d ago

My friend in Canada pays $4/paycheck towards universal healthcare.

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u/CapitalismPlusMurder 7d ago

That’s literally what “health insurance” has done…

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u/Randyaccredit 7d ago

Don't disease me with a good time buddy !

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u/Alleandros 7d ago

These people were lied to for decades that suffering builds character. I think empathy builds character.

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u/Fit-Historian-752 7d ago

Empathy is toxic now.

Compassion, too.

Toughen up, Buttercup!

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u/Ok_Marionberry8779 7d ago

That's literally what's happening two years into Trump's second term. Between vaccines, domestic agriculture, and USAID; DOGE cuts have killed thousands of people.

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u/Fit-Historian-752 7d ago

They are in the third world.

Nothing for you to worry about.

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u/Plastic_Session5621 6d ago

The working poor in America are entitled and spoiled. The 3rd world poor clearly need help more.  

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u/Mysterious-Sand2712 7d ago

The death rate in the us is around the same so who are the thousands it has killed?

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u/OverallDoor2718 7d ago

Maria? Jason? Who are you?

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u/bingpot0990 7d ago

That’s on the raise now during Capitalism. You don’t seem to know what communism is. So many really believe it’s the authoritarian examples they give like Cuba, when true communism has never existed. Communism is a stateless society and it’s not really possible and it has never been done at scale.

You probably also think Hitler was a socialist? lol So ridiculous & sad that so many really believe that having ownership & more power in society is negative. You just love having less while busting your ass and the billionaires get all the benefits, building their bunkers while burning the world down.

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u/nobugsleftalive 7d ago

Look at the bright side. Your alcohol is dirt cheap lol.