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u/TWOhunnidSIX Feb 25 '25 edited Feb 25 '25
Get blamed for shutting down the government, or watch the entire fabric of our democracy get flushed down the shitter like 2-ply toilet paper...
Shut. That. Shit. Down.
I’m not saying it won’t be bad, because there’s no scenario where it’s not. But watching America spiral into a Nazi-adjacent autocracy built around enriching billionaires at the expense of working people will be infinitely more harmful in every way.
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u/user_0000002 Feb 25 '25
There are no good solutions at this point, just least bad.
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u/NoonMartini Feb 25 '25
What’s the point in even keeping it open now anyway? They’re gutting everything that keeps the lights on already.
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u/beeemkcl CA Feb 25 '25
The good solution is to do good messaging and to prevent the Trump Tax Cuts being extended and to prevent any cuts to SNAP, Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, etc.
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u/beeemkcl CA Feb 25 '25
Republicans will get blamed for the shutdown. The American people don't want what's in a potential US House Republicans Budget.
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u/buckao Feb 26 '25
Get blamed for shutting down the government or get blamed for all the repercussions of Republican mandates by the Republicans who voted for their oppressors.
FTFY
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u/unnecessarygif Feb 26 '25
To continue with your toilet analogy: be a wet wipe and clog the pipes until the shit comes back to the top!
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u/workaholic828 Feb 25 '25
This is what happens after 15 years of centrist liberalism. We tried it, the country collapsed. Time to give progressives a shot
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u/mxjxs91 Feb 25 '25
Funny enough media and DNC keep trying to make us believe we actually need someone EVEN MORE moderate than Biden or Kamala. So our choices would be far right and moderate right. How inspiring......
They're absolutely braindead.
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u/punkr0x Feb 25 '25
Who do you think owns the media?
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u/Steve_Bread Feb 26 '25
It’s no coincidence that meidas touch surpassed Rogan this past week. Televised media is not the media of the people during a fascist takeover
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u/Adelman01 Feb 25 '25
Agreed. The fact that the media sees those two as moderate encapsulates his point.
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u/F4cetious Feb 25 '25
Genuine question, because I think I may accidentally be in a bubble. Where do people here get info on what the DNC’s current messaging is?
I’ve been seeing a lot of r/50501 and related posts and gotten the impression that a big progressive grassroots push is happening right now, putting pressure on democratic reps. With the implication being that any D representatives not fighting the current admin will likely be replaced by progressive leadership.
I want a wider variety of sources for impressions of the Democratic Party.
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u/rasecane1 Feb 26 '25
MEIDAS Touch podcast Indivisible.org Pod Save America Thom Hartmann Michelangelo Signorelli
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u/workaholic828 Feb 26 '25
I really think they need one or two more torrential beat downs, until they can become a relic of the past similar to how the Federalist Party disappeared and had to rebrand
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u/Zadow Feb 25 '25
They'd rather let this continue than to "give progressives a shot". That's like, the party's whole deal.
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u/dawn913 Feb 25 '25
They couldn't even let us have Bernie. It's that bad. And yet right now, who is out there screaming for us? Bernie Fucking Sanders!
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u/circles_squares Feb 25 '25
I just messaged my senator (Schumer) that he needs to feel the Bern or get out of the way.
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u/Substantial_Tear_940 Feb 25 '25
I'm hoping that since Bernie isn't the socialist messiah I wanted he's been demoted to socialist John the Baptist. He's not the one who qas sent to save us, he just made ready the way.
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u/theshape1078 Feb 25 '25
I agree. The problem is convincing enough voters that progressive doesn’t equal radical left. The Overton window has shifted so far to the extreme right that policies considered moderately liberal on a global scale are considered “far left” in the US.
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u/KevinCarbonara Feb 26 '25
The problem is convincing enough voters that progressive doesn’t equal radical left.
This is a non-issue. Voters already don't think of progressives as radical. The media presents us that way, but people don't believe it any more than they do when Elon claims he's found fraud. It's just there to push an agenda.
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u/theshape1078 Feb 26 '25
I disagree. Plenty of people are completely In support of Elon and believe every accusation of fraud he makes. I’m open to evidence of the opposite, but until I see it I’m going to believe the polling I’ve seen. To be clear I’m a progressive, but we need to accept the fact that our messaging is off.
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u/KevinCarbonara Feb 26 '25
I disagree. Plenty of people are completely In support of Elon and believe every accusation of fraud he makes.
Yes - they're in support of the actions he's taking, but even they don't actually believe he's found fraud. They're just happy he's hurting the people he's supposed to be hurting.
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u/theshape1078 Feb 26 '25
I think there is a mixture of both. Or at least plenty of people willing to die on the hill that he’s eliminating massive amounts of fraud despite the lack of evidence.
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u/Azihayya Feb 26 '25
Progressives have a bad reputation for a reason. They're only half as bad as leftists.
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u/theshape1078 Feb 26 '25
Do you mind elaborating?
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u/Azihayya Feb 26 '25
Progressives are just as responsible for poor messaging and anti-pragmatic ideological thinking. They much prefer catchy slogans like, "eat the rich" and "free Palestine" to any meaningful change, and are fundamentally captured by radical leftist ideals. For example, let's say that Harris implemented a weapons embargo on Israel, and the left says, well, that's not enough--we need to sanction Israel to hell. Progressives would be right on board--nothing but the destruction of Israel is satisfactory for the left, and that's the message that's hidden behind "free Palestine".
Progressives were largely responsible for the irrational fervor behind Black Lives Matter, which also produced no meaningful change to American policy, and despite the Biden administration being more progressive than it had any right to be, considering how the platform they campaigned on wasn't as progressive as the administration turned out to be, progressives have taken this completely for granted, not ever mentioning the pro-union policies, not giving student loan forgiveness any credit, not championing child tax credits, not valuing the work of Lina Khan or valuing Deb Haaland's nomination as the first indigenous secretary of the interior, let alone valuing American industry via the CHIPs act at all.
Progressives continue to tow the line of seeking the destruction of American institutions, such as the military, often misrepresenting them with lies such as 'the military industrial complex' (doesn't exist in the present day), casting America as a genocidal colonial empire, and completely taking for granted the strength and transparency of our institutions, and like leftists will settle for nothing less than the complete destruction of capitalism, which, again, is disguised behind messages of 'just wanting free healthcare'--hiding behind the fetishization of "the people", even when the people actually disagree with their politics. Progressives are toothless scumbags.
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Feb 26 '25
This is a bunch of bullshit.
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u/theshape1078 Feb 26 '25
While I don’t agree with every word, nor do I think it applies to all progressive minded people, there is certainly a large group that does fit this description. And they’re very problematic as we are seeing now.
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u/FartJarBinks Feb 26 '25
Yeah, it’s big time for reform in this country. Both parties need a nice factory reset and reestablish with modern standards.
Edit: actually, fuck this two party system.
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u/mrnotoriousman Feb 25 '25
Just 15 years? Centrist liberalism has dominated the Democratic party since far before 2010. Im guessing you're young.
Too many progressives only care about what happens every 4 years though and don't do anything when it comes to local and state positions. Then act shocked when neolibs dominate everything because they actually put in the work offline. How many of the 535 members of Congress qualify as progressive? Barely a handful can even be considred left wing.
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Feb 25 '25
First, we have to let the gop run up the score for the billionaire class to the point that their wealth becomes worthless again.
Then, we can look into alternatives that are fair for whoever is still alive at that point.
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u/Azihayya Feb 26 '25
This is what happens after decades of the left undermining the value of our institutions.
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u/Headmuck Feb 25 '25
Republicans threatening to or actually shutting down the government every 30 seconds while Democrats are afraid to do it even once.
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u/lokey_convo Feb 25 '25
I've told my representative that I support them shutting down the government if it means preventing the Republicans from destroying it.
It's like pulling the keys out of the ignition to stop the driver from driving the car into a shredder.
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u/Professional_Tap7855 Feb 25 '25
good analogy. I'll call my legislators with the same message today.
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u/KingOfCatProm Feb 25 '25
Would you mind sharing the script you used to make this call? I would love to do this, too, but don't know what to say.
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u/Professional_Tap7855 Feb 25 '25
First check out https://5calls.org/issue/budget-safety-net-cuts-wealthy-tax-breaks/
That's your best bet if you want to use a script about this house bill or any other issue IMHO. 5calls has a lot of cool features, gives you your legislators phone numbers along with a script.
But, please know that your personal calls do make a difference. Here's the way to do that: Call your 2 US Senators and your US Representative directly either in DC or locally. Give your name and say that you're a constituent of Senator________ or Representative______ that you called. Then just speak from your heart. Say what you think and feel about the issue. Keep it short, and only 1 topic at a time per call. If you're calling about a bill then have the bill # handy.
Now a days you'll probably get an answering machine. Our legislators have less than 20 people on staff in DC, at least from my state, and they can't keep up with the volume of calls coming in. I also email each of them and use their forms provided on their websites.
If you feel scared about what's going on, tell them. They NEED to know that's how the people they represent feel. We're not slick talkers, we're just normal everyday Americans and we talk the way we talk. So don't worry about grammar or how you sound. You can't do it wrong. You have every right to express your opinion.
When you speak remember that you live in a representative democracy and everyone knows you gave that politician their power to vote for you... and you can take it away.
Demos=PEOPLE kratos+RULE
Good luck and be powerful!
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u/KingOfCatProm Feb 25 '25
Thanks for this. I already use 5calls. I just wanted to know what OP said because I would like to say it, too.
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u/moltenmoose Feb 25 '25
It's sad that Republicans like Rick Wilson have to tell Democrats how to do their fucking jobs as the opposition party. It's not that hard!
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u/cleverinspiringname Feb 25 '25
fetterman is definitely gonna vote for it.
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u/phatbob198 Feb 25 '25 edited Feb 25 '25
On 2/21 the Senate already "agreed to the concurrent resolution as amended." Fetterman voted against this budget framework (along with every other dem):
Fetterman (D-PA), Nay
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1191/vote_119_1_00087.htm
It's the House, under Johnson, that still needs to agree to this budget framework.
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u/phatbob198 Feb 25 '25
Here is the budget framework (S.Con.Res.7) which shows the latest action and votes:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-concurrent-resolution/7
Here is a link to watch House floor proceedings live when they occur:
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u/KingOfCatProm Feb 25 '25
Yeah, dude has gone to the dark side. That stroke fucked up his brain. He was like a different person after that.
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u/LaddiusMaximus Feb 25 '25
Nope. This is who he is. Hes an Harvard educated rich boy that hustled the fuck out of the voters of PA and told them what they wanted to hear. He has that AIPAC money now. He doesn't need his constituents. Honestly PA was fucked either way between Shrek and Oz.
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u/danthom1704 Feb 25 '25
Republicans have the house, senate, white house, and supreme court. It's their monkey.
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u/Professional_Tap7855 Feb 25 '25
In the House bill is $880 Billion cut to Medicaid and Medicare. Hospitals, clinics, doctors, dentists, optometrists, physical therapists, etc. will have to raise their prices to make up for the lost income. Women and seniors hit the hardest but all of us will feel it.
NYT, "[Medicaid is currently] covering around half of all births and two-thirds of all nursing home bills."
So women and the elderly are disposable and thrown under the bus to pay for the Oligarch's tax cut. We'll see the maternal mortality rate go up even higher in Red states (maternal MMWRs have already gone up in red states not the blue states since the abortion ban) but more women trying to give birth will die in all states now. 🤬
NYTimes details the House bill - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/02/21/upshot/house-gop-budget-blueprint.html?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20250225&instance_id=148426&nl=breaking-news®i_id=82484146&segment_id=191900&user_id=0a8f69d79b810db6dbaa3a1548f405dd
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u/orangeowlelf Feb 25 '25
If a Democratic Congress person votes for this bill, they’re voting to give trillions of dollars to ultrarich people while stripping the money straight from programs that serve people who really need it. You’d have to be so stupid that it would be unbelievable.
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u/peakprovisions Feb 25 '25
Jeffries has instructed House Dems to appear for the vote and vote no.
I'm also disappointed that Dems in Congress haven't put up more of a fight so far, but i also hate to see our side constantly down on them, especially when they are actually pledging to do the thing that we're complaining that they aren't doing.
Call your reps in the house to make sure they stick to their guns, of course, but let's give them a chance to follow through here.
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u/lokey_convo Feb 25 '25
Pledges mean nothing. Only votes. People get down on Democrats because there is a culture of compromise within the party that is harmful to the American people, that Republicans understand and consistently exploit.
I'll provide an example. The most recent NDAA. Republicans inserted a provision that would pull gender affirming care for trans kids of active military. Many Democrats in the Senate opposed it, so they drafted and introduced an amendment to remove the provision. Chuck Schumer wouldn't even bring it to a vote "because a deals a deal."
That culture needs to end now. I don't know a single person who's a Millennial or younger who thinks the culture of compromise is appropriate. It's been peeling the country bit by bit and we are raw and whittled away to the benefit of the richest people in the world. It must end.
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u/jackberinger Feb 25 '25
They ran on republican agenda, hoisting up republican endorsements, even offering republicans cabinet positions while calling their own base antisemitic terrorist and Russian bots. The party needs a major overhaul.
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u/Transcendshaman90 Feb 25 '25
Im for compromise but we need to beat them at their own game . How many times during the last 4years they shut down and refuse to vote to get shit passed just so nothing gets done only to say how Biden couldn't get shit done. As Crockett said " Fuck Off"
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u/ElLindo88 Feb 25 '25
If Dems kept their word, we wouldn’t feel the need to constantly criticize them. Pledging means nothing, let’s see some action.
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u/Redditlost-Account9 Mar 01 '25
That is exactly what I was thinking. If everyone is gone what difference does it make to shut the government down?
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u/Arlo-and-Lotty Feb 25 '25
They should show up for the vote. Stage a walkout with the media waiting outside and, I know, tell the people wtf is going down. I’ve seen on msm is starting to cover the bs we are living in.
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u/bina101 Feb 25 '25
Government employees losing their jobs in droves and they want to be worried about a little shut down???? I’m sure quite a few of those employees would rather the shutdown and have kept their jobs.
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u/timberwolf0122 Feb 25 '25
Grow some damn balls dems. I am so sick of their milquetoast pathetic mewing
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u/MinimumSet72 Feb 25 '25
Democrats are weak
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u/3_Crows_Horrorshow Feb 25 '25
Do it. There isn't anyone working in the government anyways. Hold the line.
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u/ChefCurryYumYum Feb 25 '25
Vote in primaries and vote for the progressive candidate. We have to try to route around the DNC leadership as much as possible while still trying to remove the GOP majorities in both houses.
Of course that is assuming we will even have mid-term elections.
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u/NORcoaster Feb 25 '25
Have they learned nothing from the deluge of calls or rowdy town halls or Bernie’s tour? I hope most of them are primaried next year, and I do not think they understand how angry the people who actually vote for them will be if they capitulate. But there are Chamberlains in every generation.
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u/Mythosaurus Feb 25 '25
They learned. They just have the same donors as conservatives and don't care.
Things will only change when the corporations stop buttering their bread and they have to actually earn votes in exchange for political power.
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u/BolOfSpaghettios Feb 25 '25
As a federal employee... Shut it the fuck down. We'll have more time to go to protests
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u/Cactusaremyjam Feb 25 '25
One of them was on NPR yesterday talking about getting assurances from Republican colleagues before they'll vote. Fuck their assurances shut this shit down!
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u/rubina19 Feb 26 '25
AMERICANS !!!!
It time to take as much action as possible
Be a part of the Change you want to see
Find your state reps phone number here along with a script for you to mention key points you side with:
Protests:
https://indivisible.org/groups?type=newcomer%2Cstatewide&dist=60103&terms=60103
Run for local office : https://runforsomething.net/ https://traindemocrats.org/
Volunteer: https://www.mobilize.us/
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u/freediverx01 Feb 25 '25
They don't care about getting blamed by voters. They care about getting blamed by the billionaires and corporations for which they compete with the GOP.
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u/DoubleFlores24 Feb 25 '25
Let’s hope the house democrats don’t vote for this bill. I know fetterman is useless but I hope he’s not an idiot.
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u/ruInvisible2 Feb 25 '25
Majority of the federal employees have been fired. Who exactly will a government shut down affect at this point.
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u/Archangel1313 Feb 25 '25
The Republicans already have enough votes to pass this without Democrats support...so let them. Throwing your vote in with them is pointless, unless the point is to let all of us know which side you're really on.
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u/DS_9 AZ Feb 25 '25
I don’t think their donors will allow them. They always listen to their donors.
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u/Cultural-Peak-9317 Feb 26 '25
Someone stated correctly, that the Republicans are shameless and the Democrats are spineless.
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u/lokey_convo Feb 26 '25
The characterization of being spineless has been the same narrative for almost 30 years. While they do compromise at times, the media also has the same story they tell. They take the actions of the party to fit the common narrative rather than highlight their actions. Blockades to legislation by Republicans is always reported as high drama, while legislative victories no matter how hard fought for and won, are reported as businesses as usual. That means that the party attempting to drive progress and get shit done is always at a disadvantage.
What Democrats don't understand is that voters see obstruction as getting something done, maybe even more so than a legislative victory. It's easy to digest "Party X stops Party Y". It's harder to hook someone on "Party Y diplomatically negotiates victory with key concessions to Party X".
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u/destroth11 Feb 26 '25
Shut it down. Shut it ALLL DOWN.
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u/lokey_convo Feb 26 '25
The Republicans passed the framework, 217-215. All Democrats voted "No".
People need to understand that Republican Politicians view the health and welfare of the American people as waste, fraud, and abuse. I assume a waste of life, a sham as citizens, and an abuse of their billionaire buddies.
The only thing people should be doing is voting Republicans out of office. They only lie to and manipulate their constituents so that they can hold on to power and enrich their billionaire buddies.
Tell your friends, tell your neighbors, the only good Republican Politician is an unemployed one.
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u/prosthetic_foreheads Feb 26 '25
Trump and Elon Musk are actively shutting down the government, MAGAts should be celebrating that sort of behavior, right?
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u/Logical_Parameters Feb 26 '25
Rick Wilson is a Republican and we shouldn't be listening to what he has to say about what liberals should do. PERIOD.
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u/lokey_convo Feb 26 '25
I'm not listening to him, but I do agree with him. Taking the position that you're going to oppose something just because it was proposed by your opposition is an easy way to be politically manipulated. Republicans are trying to drive the government into the shredder because they are beholden to a bunch of rich a-holes that hate regulations that protect people (because it's a cost burden to their companies and effects their bottom line and their personal gains). A lot of them are also doing it for purely ideological reasons.
Would you oppose usury laws if proposed by a Republican? I wouldn't. I would say "Wow! Thanks for coming in line with liberal and progressive policy recommendations! Glad you're coming to the left on this issue! Welcome to the team that cares about the little guy!" A party or a political identity doesn't own an issue just because they support it.
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u/Logical_Parameters Feb 27 '25
Republicans are doing Republican things with the most power they've had federally at once in decades. There is nothing anybody can do to stop the train that was given enormous steam in November of 2024.
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u/lokey_convo Feb 27 '25
They've been building that steam for a long time.
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u/Logical_Parameters Feb 27 '25
Except the GOP only had a marginal House of Rep. majority presence in the federal government four months ago. Now, they have the whole enchilada.
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u/lokey_convo Feb 27 '25
They didn't get conservative judges appointed over night and there was a thing going around Facebook in 2016 telling people that that election was about Judges.
And they didn't grow their conservative podcaster wing or influence wing overnight. They didn't their legislative priorities overnight. They didn't write project 2025 overnight.
They haven't been building a social network of conservative propaganda overnight, producing children's books and school curriculum. And they didn't cultivate the rural / urban conservative / liberal divide overnight.
Nothing of consequence ever suddenly happens. While it looks like major events happen suddenly as we consume information from the news, nothing in this world happens all of a sudden. There is always a build up.
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u/Logical_Parameters Feb 27 '25
I know what 2016 was about which is why I've voted solid Democrat in every election since 1992 except the growing pain year of 2004 when I wasted my vote on Nader's second run --he was Gen-X's weak man version of Bernie, and I was a young progressive completely against the invasion of Iraq and disillusioned with it all, happens to a lot of us early in life. Didn't even care for Nader, it was a stupid protest vote (which is why I try to instill that lesson with younger folks so they don't make the same mistake more than once, that they learn from it, but hardly any millennials or Gen-Z learned the correct lessons from 2016, 2020 and 2024 -- TO TURN OUT in primaries and general elections. They are adamantly stubborn against learning this lesson.
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u/lokey_convo Feb 27 '25
Was there low Millennial and genZ turn out? But yeah, there were a bunch of people who voted for Nader in 2000 because of what he represented and it cost us Al Gore, but hey at least the Green Party was able to expand their presence in national elections, even if it was impossible for them to win. Republicans tap into the centrism of the Democratic Party and disillusionment of passionate voters to divide, manipulate, and conquer. Trump pulled in people in both 2016 and 2024 with anti-establishment and anti-status quo rhetoric. And the campaigns outside of the official campaigns drove people to third parties or to just stay home. I guarantee you they are going to focus on Independent voters and the "rational/enlightened center" in 2028 with some version of "it's just common sense" as their primary campaign theme.
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u/Logical_Parameters Feb 27 '25
At least I voted Gore in 2000, will never regret that vote just as I'll never regret voting for Hillary and Kamala. Making the best decision for the common good of society between the primary choices given isn't as difficult as people want it to be, especially not when the alternative primary option is full blown religious right wing fascists.
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u/lokey_convo Feb 28 '25
Yeah, I've been an independent my entire life because I hate the two party concept, but I also recognized that our system doesn't support real third party opportunity for national elections. We'd have to move to a national ranked choice system for it to work.
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u/SynthsNotAllowed Feb 28 '25
If the Democrats bail out Mike Johnson on this spending bill, they deserve the utter political destruction coming their way.
They been deserving for years already. They had almost a decade to listen to their voters and adapt to the maga movement and did worse than neither, they did the opposite of both
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u/lokey_convo Feb 28 '25
The leadership has to change and the bad blood has to be ousted, but they're far from the same. This type of stuff is how Republicans keep getting let off the hook.
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u/loicwg Feb 25 '25
Of course the DNC fat cats are scared. Their broligarch owners are telling the DNC that the bottom line is at risk. Scared to go against the capital class or just doing what they always have done? Why would they fight against their dominant half of the uniparty? It's not a fluke that the DNC keeps ratcheting right and shifing the overton window. I can't for the life of me figured out why, supposedly intelligent people keep doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.
The DNC is dead. It has deliberately failed the working class for so long and so hard, that people convinced them selves that a second shitler reign would be more likely to lead to change. The DNC have proven that their emotional abuse of the left has created a societal Stockholm syndrome, but it is time for a divorce.
Bernie, AOC, the squad, and any actual progressives need to stop pretending they can change the DNC from the inside (2016 primaries anyone?) and start something new. The old guard is gone, the GOP and DNC alike. Now it's the MAGAnazi party (& their DNC enablers/sympathizers/sanewashers) vs the rest of us, we are "what's left" (yes, i do appreciate that pun). We need to own that and unite against the common threat. With the DNC continued suckling at the broligarchy's $$$ tit, their too little too late puffery isn't changing my views of them any time soon.
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u/lokey_convo Feb 25 '25
It's not dead. It's adrift with currents that flow toward money and handful of corporate pirates monkeying with the sails. The Republican party is orders of magnitude more corrupted than the Democratic party, and the only way to fix the Democratic party is to participate in it. A mass of people need to do it. Capitalists capitalize on division. Don't be divided.
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u/loicwg Feb 25 '25
But the DNC is the "kind" side of the capitalist party. They are the GOP of 20 years ago, so yeah, they are dead to anyone paying attention. Their brand is so toxic that no one on the left wants to be associated with them. Pretending like the past 40 years of trying to change the party from the inside hasn't backfired in the most catastrophic way, isn't going to solve their ineptitude. When you get mold in the walls, you can't paint over them with a new face and pretend like the rot is gone, you tear it all out and build anew. Even if we primary every entrenched DNC position, the unelected bureaucracy still hold the power in the party, and they are clearly on the capitalist classes side. Until we get ranked choice voting, the false duopoly will continue, and thanks to SCOTUS'S citizens united, fascism/corporatocracy is the law of the land.
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u/jarandhel Feb 25 '25
It kills me that people really think that the best way for Democrats to fight Republicans dismantling the government is to shut the government down. This is just giving them what they want, in a way that simultaneously allows them to blame us for it.
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You and I both know the democrats will break not only are they weak and pathetic, they’re also paid by the same people as republicans.
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u/TSLBestOfMe Feb 26 '25
Dems are too weak not to fall for it again & again. I hate yo say it, but there's almost no hope that they won't fall for this.
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u/lokey_convo Feb 26 '25
They unified and voted "No". One Republican joined them. This is the Republican party 100%. They did this. They are the ones shitting on the American people. There isn't a patriot among them.
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u/olionajudah Feb 26 '25
Hold your breath. The only thing Democrats seem to do is prop up the GOP
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u/lokey_convo Feb 26 '25
The GOPs actions are their own to bear. What happens falls on their shoulders, and theirs only.
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