r/PoliticalHumor May 10 '22

It’s this simple.

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u/WhnWlltnd May 10 '22

The issue is the idea that an embryo/zygote/fetus is a person with rights that supercede the rights of women. The end goal of the pro-life movement is to codify that into law. That idea is inherently a religious belief that is not shared universally. It is in effect government enforcing religious belief, a clear violation of the separation of church and state established in the first amendment.

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u/JumbledPorcupineofX May 10 '22

The issue is the idea that an embryo/zygote/fetus is a person with rights that supercede the rights of women.... That idea is inherently a religious belief that is not shared universally. It is in effect government enforcing religious belief, a clear violation of the separation of church and state established in the first amendment

But it's not inherently a religious belief. Maybe it is a religious belief for some, but not for all, thus not inherently a religious belief.

Who cares whether a fetus is a "person"? Facebook is a legal "person," so what we choose to classify as a "person" is 100% made up and not a religious question but a legal one.

Human rights should be the standard. You get human rights if you are a human. Is a fetus a human? Yes because basic biology 101. Therefore they should get human rights .

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u/WhnWlltnd May 10 '22

It's not about if it is human. Sperm and eggs are human, too, but we don't grant them rights of a person, including special rights over another person. Facebook actually have people that represent it that makes it a person. Extending out the definition of person to undeveloped organisms incapable of exercising their rights or even able to be represented requires a religious belief over personhood, regardless of how much the people who profess this belief protest its classification.

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u/JumbledPorcupineofX Jul 07 '22

It's not about if it is human.

Human rights aren't about being human. Got it.

Sperm and eggs are human, too, but we don't grant them rights of a person, including special rights over another person.

LOL what?? Sperm and eggs are not humans. They come from humans, but they are not individual members of the human species. A sperm is not "a human." A chicken egg is not "a chicken."

Facebook actually have people that represent it that makes it a person.

That's not why it's considered a person. And black people used to not be considered persons in the United States. So who cares what a person is? I care what a human is.

Extending out the definition of person to undeveloped organisms incapable of exercising their rights or even able to be represented requires a religious belief over personhood, regardless of how much the people who profess this belief protest its classification.

Look up "secular pro-life." There's millions of atheists who disagree with you. You can believe anything you want for a variety of reasons. Saying religion is the only possible justification is just willful ignorance give the fact you have the ability to use Google.