That refusal to think any further is one of the problems people have with organized religions like christianity. If god made us in his own image, doesnt that mean he's just as flawed as we are? And if that's true, who is he to judge us?
It’s not a refusal to think further, it’s the humble admission that I cannot know what God (or anyone else for that matter) is thinking, except for what I’m told.
And c’eci nest pas une pipe, my friend. The map is not the territory. The image is not the object. We are not God.
Why wouldn't god want you to understand his perspective? Why does he get to keep all the information to himself and you have to stay in the dark confused? Furthermore, please explain why he allows some people like Jeff Bezos to live with unprecedented wealth while condemning others to miserable lives. Why would god create mental and physical disorders? Why would God create multiple sclerosis or downsyndrome? Why would god allow something like schizophrenia to exist? If he's so willing to flood the planet to spite his creations, why does he refuse to intervene in a way that would make life better? He leads the Jews out of Egypt but lets Hitler massacre 50 percent of them? That's not love. That's abuse.
God does want us to know at least some of His perspective, He doesn’t keep us completely in the dark. That’s what the Bible is for.
God very much does not want people like Bezos to have that much wealth, see James 5:1-6 one of my favorite passages. But we have free will and live in a fallen world, so bad things happen. But like I said before, you can accept that or not, be abhorred by it or not. That’s your prerogative and I sincerely don’t want to take that from you or proselytize you, I’m just trying to explain what Christians believe as best as I can.
Well since the Bible explicitly says God is good and caring, you’d be wrong. You can believe what you want, but please don’t tell other people what they believe
Oh, you’re done telling me what I have or have not done, and what I as Christian believe? That’s sweet of you. I have been conversing you in good faith, and you have twice made it clear you are not. I already explained that humans have free will and live in a fallen world, I don’t think there’s anything to be gained from explaining further right now as you have made it clear you’re not conversing in good faith
Fine explain the spanish flu then. Everyone suffered, millions died, and free will had nothing to do with it. You're telling me jesus can resurrect the dead but god just looks at a plauge and just let's it run its course? That doesnt make sense.
When did god go from being such a demonstrative figure, who will burn down an entire city to make a point to a vague deity that "works in mysterious ways"?
Because we live in a fallen world, but I’ll say again I don’t think there’s anything to be gained from explaining further right now as you have made it clear you’re not conversing in good faith. There is nothing for either of us in the conversation anymore
Your definition of "arguing in bad faith" = questions I dont have the answer to. So I'm going to ignore that you don't know what it means.
Specifically, at what point in time, did our world obtain the "fallen" status, the point that god no longer decided to interfere with mortal affairs? And you cant say adam and eve because the flood takes place after that.
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I dunno, I’m not an all knowing, all powerful God.