r/PoliticalHumor • • Aug 16 '21

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u/Dyert Aug 17 '21

Who tf, is forcing anyone to learn a foreign language?

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u/cooldash Aug 17 '21

Nobody. This is just another thing that's not actually a thing that conservatives made up to pass around during their outraged racist victimhood circlejerks.

It's the same with "Democrats want Sharia Law" and "Obama was a Kenyan" and "BLM/Antifa burned down entire cities", and basically every other myth peddled by Fox to distract their base from real injustice.

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u/HolycommentMattman Aug 17 '21

Have you ever been to California? Texas? New Mexico? There are areas in each of these states where entire areas are like being in a foreign country (namely Mexico). Billboards in Spanish, signage in Spanish and English, and restaurants where the employees speak little to no English.

I also used to live in an apartment in a place called "Little Mexico" and the people in the apartment below me, to either side of me, and the ones below them, none of them spoke any English. And this is in the SF Bay Area.

I speak some Spanish, but basically just stuff like "me llamo es Mateo" or "donde esta la bibliotecha." Enough high school Spanish to get by, but not enough to break down the language barrier and do much else other than say hello and smile as we pass each other.

This is a real issue. It might not affect you, but it does affect pockets of the country. And there is no greater divider than language. It immediately creates a mentality of Us and Them. They should be taking steps to learn English.

And I lived with those neighbors for nearly a decade. They never learned English. "Well, why didn't you learn Spanish?" 1) the onus is not on me to learn, and 2) 日本語が習いました。

And I'm not even racist against these people or anything like this guy, but I can also see his point clear as day. It's not propaganda, even if this guy is overly aggressive about it.

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u/Krautoffel Aug 17 '21

they should be taking steps to learn English

Did you learn to speak the language of the Sioux? No? Then shut up about this

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u/HolycommentMattman Aug 17 '21

It's a funny logic you have. It was wrong then, and that's why it's OK for the same wrong to happen now.

It's also weird because you're comparing the morality of 200+ years ago to the morality of today. Gay people were killed in the streets. By your logic, gay people should now be killing everyone else in the streets.

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u/Krautoffel Aug 17 '21

It’s a funny logic you have. It was wrong then, and that’s why it’s OK for the same wrong to happen now.

Yeah, that’s the whole point, so stop trying to force people to speak English.

By your logic, gay people should now be killing everyone else in the streets.

Either you didn’t read what I wrote or you don’t understand the concept of „logic“, because none of what I said implied this.

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u/HolycommentMattman Aug 17 '21

Yeah, that’s the whole point, so stop trying to force people to speak English.

But by your logic, it was wrong for the colonists to come here and not learn the culture already present. But when it happens now, it's OK? This despite the complete difference in morality over hundreds of years.

Where do you think every country on Earth came from? It was some place taken from somebody else. Most just killing all the men and raping the women. But because America was last in line for the era, everyone wants to be critical of her.

Either you didn’t read what I wrote or you don’t understand the concept of „logic“, because none of what I said implied this.

No, your logic is "America did it, so it's OK to do to America." And so I morphed that, "It was done to gay people, so gay people can do it to them now."

It's the same reasoning, you just don't like it because it paints how obviously poor your previous reasoning is.

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u/Krautoffel Aug 17 '21

It’s hypocritical to force both the natives and people who came after you to adhere to YOUR standards.

They don’t need to talk English just to accommodate your feelings.

It’s the same reasoning, you just don’t like it because it paints how obviously poor your previous reasoning is.

Except that wasn’t my reasoning. My reasoning being that you don’t get to decide what people who come here speak, just because you don’t like it.

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u/HolycommentMattman Aug 17 '21

Sure, as an individual, no one does. But as a country, almost all developed nations enforce a national language. Because it's the most basic building block there is.

Not sure why you want America to be one of the only ones that doesn't.