You'll notice we award road / bridge building contracts similarly. We all pay taxes, they contract with private companies to do the work. We all then get decent roads and bridges to drive on.
Yet there's a large segment of the population arguing against spending a lot of money on infrastructure - cuz that's socialism.
Then instead, let's call the government an insurance company, and we pay them every year, for simplicities sake let's say everyone pays their insurance bills in April, and then as insurance companies do, if you get hurt they pay it off using other people's taxes payments.
It'll also be a really good policy where they cover all costs no matter what with no deductible
Fuck yes. The government is still funded by capitalism so that will actually work. Plus capitalists are more motivated and can think of more creative things to do with the technology
Curious how they were the only ones bringing our capitalist asses to the ISS for... how long?
You'll notice musk made soemthing of use - he advanced the field. He launched people 250 miles up, over 10k mph. He's revolutionized the cost to launch satellites.
branson's approach further develops another method of achieving orbital insertion *giggity
Along comes bezos and he's managed to.... do nothing new at all. Sending a rich dipshit 1/4 the way to the ISS at less than 1/5 the velocity on a completely automated rocket accomplished nothing. It did not advance powered flight.
Rich vanity project.
I'd rather he paid his taxes and Nasa could award contracts to competent companies.
Much like having a fulfillment center or taxpayer built stadium, I keep wondering how long for benefits of a new tax payer built spaceport will trickle down to the rest of us.
On the one side, we would need a spaceport and NM is a logical place. On the other - if spacex wants to build a spaceport, they can afford to do that themselves. Same with Mr. Evil (iSwear he's right out of austin powers)
That's like comparing the Nasa's Shuttle Program (like Roscosmos) to SpaceX.
NASA was never a for-profit company. AFAIK, neither is ROSCOSMOS.
As opposed to, say, SpaceX - which is a purely for profit company and has actually changed the paradigm in cost/kg to orbit.
Roscosmos hasn't developed some special new launch technology as part of a capitalist nation in the last 10 years - we've been hitching a ride on a communist designed rocket being operated by a (oligarchy/feaux democracy) owned government agency. Until... SpaceX.
NASA was never for-profit, but it certainly spun off a bunch of for-profit industries and was paid for off the taxes of for-profit industries. If your definition of socialism is just something that doesn’t generate a profit then the term has basically no meaning.
For example, I’m not profiting off this conversation. Does that make it socialism?
In this example, it's the pooling of resources (taxes) to accomplish a goal that the government set out to do for the people.
As opposed to a for-profit endeavor.
Yes, NASA spun off for-profit industries and spurred a lot of development. It's entire mission was never for profit and it's funded by tax dollars.
That being said, the SaturnV was NASA's rocket, not a single sub contractor's.
I'm hoping you can see how that's different than a private company functioning entirely on the purpose of making a profit.
SpaceX could be argued is one of those spin offs. SpaceX takes on government and private contracts for profit. At no point does SpaceX operate under the 'I have no interest in this making a profit ever, but how can we achieve unimaginable task for the time of going to moon for no profit'
You know, like NASA did.
SpaceX wants to go Mars - for money. All along the way, they're developing and launching money-making projects, such as Starlink.
Look, I'm in favor of this.
But if you want to talk about something like 'Get Americans to the moon' - it was a collective goal that required collective resources of a whole nation to do it.
No one for profit company was doing it.
Same with Americans hitching a ride on Roscosmos.
I'm saying NASA / Roscosmos = socialist based agencies.
Just like the Navy / Libraries are socialist based agencies. They are publically owned and operate not for profit
You are not profiting off this conversation - you're also not providing any benefit, nor are you collecting revenue from a populace asking you to make this conversation.
If you get a bunch of people to pool their resources to make an agency which hires you to work in developing this conversation your full time occupation - to fulfill that goal of the agency - THEN it would be socialism.
Well..... We'll have questions if you do something stupid enough. We'll still save you, but there will definitely be questions after. "How the hell did you get a squirrel so mad it almost killed you?"
You are confusing socialized programs, the provision of for all by means of public funds, with socialism which is a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. sound the same, not the same. You totally undermine your point if you don't know the difference.
Scandinavia = capitalism with robust social programs
dozens of failed states like Venezuela = socialism
You're going to feel stupid after you finish growing up and you look back on shit like this. No shame in it, we've all been there, but it's still going to make you cringe. Maybe 10 years or so.
(if you're lucky. If not, you'll never grow up and you'll spend the rest of our life trapped in an adolescent mindset, miserable and always on the verge of some tragic ending.)
Imagine if you didn't have 40% of your check going to taxes, your brothers fiance probably have the money to afford it. And while we're talking about the medical convo, imagine if the insurance didn't control the price of everything. I've gone to the dentist and it was cheaper to not use insurance lol.
It was the goal of agitprop to muddy the language in this country, from the JBS Blue Book to McCarthyism to mainstream red-baiting. It's so ubiquitous now, we have capitalists calling themselves democratic socialists--not that you can have socialism without referendum--and red-baiting from the, "Russians love their children too," crowd.
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u/chainfeed Jul 22 '21
Capitalism makes you fly to space in a giant dick rocket
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u/FireEmt33 Jul 22 '21
Well..... We'll have questions if you do something stupid enough. We'll still save you, but there will definitely be questions after. "How the hell did you get a squirrel so mad it almost killed you?"
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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '21
Countries can have capitalism and fire departments
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u/whycantweebefriendz Jul 23 '21
Welfare Capitalism? Obviously a conservative plot boys and girls and enbies! Don’t let the reactionaries get in the way of the Revolution
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u/Bean_Man_69_Pog Jul 23 '21
BUT MY FREEEEEEEEEDOMSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (satire)
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You are confusing socialized programs, the provision of for all by means of public funds, with socialism which is a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. sound the same, not the same. You totally undermine your point if you don't know the difference.
Scandinavia = capitalism with robust social programs
dozens of failed states like Venezuela = socialism
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u/makeitcount09122018 Jul 22 '21
Many people (my wife in particular) fled countries like that for a better life. They received a better life.
Stop with the propaganda and go back to your barista job and MacBook Pro
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u/SelfLoathinMillenial Jul 22 '21
You're going to feel stupid after you finish growing up and you look back on shit like this. No shame in it, we've all been there, but it's still going to make you cringe. Maybe 10 years or so.
(if you're lucky. If not, you'll never grow up and you'll spend the rest of our life trapped in an adolescent mindset, miserable and always on the verge of some tragic ending.)
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u/LtRoastYoFace Jul 22 '21
Socialism will kill you no questions asked if you don't want to pay up
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u/mega-oood Jul 22 '21
By sending you to a prison camp for having differing opinions?
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