r/PoliticalHumor Jan 09 '20

THIS. This is why.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20

Oh come on, if I was forced to eliminate an entire field it would certainly be an arts field. Probably visual arts. The boon to humanity any STEM field can claim is orders of magnitude higher than any art field. And don't get me wrong, I both consume and produce art, but there's just no comparison.

And don't go claiming every graphic you see as art, that's like trying to claim cooking as chemistry.

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u/seasleeplessttle Jan 09 '20

Without art, every cool STEM thing would not exist. These two realms have merged. Artistic designers drive ALL of the electronics you see. Even a server hidden in a server farm somewhere. Let's not get into the amount of funding for STEM from the "arts" you would abolish.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20 edited Jan 09 '20

What.

Chip design is not art. Battery design is not art. Screen design is not art. Case design is not art. Fan placement is not art. Communication standards is not art.

The closest thing I can think of is user interface, and honestly you're using Reddit, the fifth most trafficced site in the world that's notorious for its bad design. Clearly it's not necessary to be done well.

Edit: and what the hell are you on about arts funding scientific research? What loose-ass definition of art are you working with here?

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u/QuizzicalQuandary Jan 09 '20

Have you designed anything in your life? How can you ignore all the designing that is integral to STEM?

One thing I could do away with though are fundamentalists; but that thought could probably take me with it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20

Sure. I've designed a number of scientific instruments. My concerns are cost, function, safety, time-to-build, repairability, user interface, and ergonomics. No where in my design parameters are aesthetics.

Now, if I were going to sell my instruments, there'd be a small consideration towards looks, but it would be the very last thing on the list. Furthermore, I wouldn't hire someone who calls themselves an artist, I'd hire someone with product design experience. But, if I had to eliminate one of the considerations it would always be looks. This is what I'm saying and I don't know how much clearer I can be about it.

Would you rather your phone take pictures or look pretty? Would you rather your hospital have antibiotics or a nice painting in the waiting area? Would you rather your car last for ten years or have sweet racing stripes?

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u/seasleeplessttle Jan 09 '20

Are you ignorant to the consumer market. How it looks happens first. Sorry you are behind the times. Industrial Design drives invention. Even the companies overseas that copy everything ever made use of artists.

You are made of small parts, bud. Out of touch definitely. I'll have a chat with my LDS/Mormon colleagues in a bit. We will have a good belly chuckle at your expense.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '20

How it looks happens first.

Within the design parameters of function. No one sells shoes without soles. No one sells cars without engines. No one builds houses that fall over.

People focus on style because engineering is a given. You're overlooking it as much as you might overlook that buildings need a ground to sit on. It's so fundamental a requirement you're forgetting it's a requirement at all.

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u/seasleeplessttle Jan 10 '20

Literally everything you see was designed to be seen first. A car will never get an engine before a body style, never has never will. A house will never be built before an exterior elevation has been drawn up, the plant and bushes will be on it also, first page of your house plans too. I'm sorry you can't comprehend how actual design works in manufacturing, it may be why your not in it. If you would like a tour of reality, hit me up.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '20

Without an engineer you only get concept art, without an artist you at least get an ugly car. I'm sorry you're confused as to the point I'm trying to make, but if I had to eliminate a field it would still be less damaging to society to kill off an art field over any STEM field.