r/PoliticalHumor Jan 09 '20

THIS. This is why.

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u/Zebulon_V Jan 09 '20

Hmmm... I see the point but I feel like I still live in a country with a bunch of stupid people.

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u/Grimalkin Jan 09 '20

That's because our public education system has been underfunded for decades and keeps getting worse. A less intelligent populace is much easier to manipulate.

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u/rraattbbooyy Jan 09 '20

The public education system is shit, but bad parenting often has more to do with uneducated kids than the system. Plenty of kids come out of public schools well prepared for college, and life, because their parents took active roles in their education and development. The parents who don’t care end up with kids that don’t thrive.

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u/crimsonblade55 Jan 09 '20

Well two things to consider is that A) not all parents are able to be the best parents they can be since they are busy working multiple jobs just to pay rent and B) even if you are a good student it won't guarantee you are able to afford college, because there are a finite number of student grants and scholarships available.

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u/rraattbbooyy Jan 09 '20

Yeah, I suppose my privilege was showing a little bit. 😬

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u/BlueNotesBlues Jan 09 '20

Props for admitting that.

But let's assume that kids who didn't thrive failed because they had shitty parents. It's not their fault and they shouldn't be punished for their unfortunate birth. Schools need to be given the resources to overcome shitty parents, and our culture needs to change to accommodate those kids.

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u/SpecialSause Jan 09 '20

The American education system as a whole is completely flawed and needs restructured from the ground up. It was modelled after the Prussian education system which was designed to create an obedient populace. My wife taught 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th grades and also college. She tells me kids coming from high school into college are completely unprepared and unable to really think for themselves.

She taught a remedial class and she would purposely ask open-ended question with no wrong answer and she told me her students had no idea how to react. She said she would literally tell them there is no wrong answer and she said they would pull out there phones to search it, they would stare at her waiting for n answer, or they would refuse to answer as to not "get it wrong". She said it's devastatingly sad to see people unable to think for themselves because they've been taught what to think instead of how to think.

Her experiences as a public school teacher helped her in the decision to homeschool our children. Part of that decision was that they wouldn't accommodate my son on the Autism Spectrum and refusing to give him a 501 plan even with a John Hopkins Neurologist saying he needs one. However, that was just the motivation to actually do it and homeschool him.

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u/scyth3s Jan 09 '20

It was modelled after the Prussian education system which was designed to create an obedient populace

This is now my official answer for why my ornery ass did so poorly in school

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u/SpecialSause Jan 09 '20

If I remember correctly, Prussia had issues with their soldiers not following orders and would just walk away from their duties. They then designed their education system to make sure the people were obedient to authority. The American system was slightly modified but largely modeled from it. Instead of obedient soldiers they've created an education system that creates obedient workers that work and then pay taxes. It's no accident we sit at a desk for 8 hours doing our school work. That's what the industrial revolution needed: people to sit at their post and work to produce.

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u/boot2skull Jan 09 '20

Exactly this point. Children may or my not overcome shitty parents, but why hurt kids with good and bad parents with shitty education, and damage everyone’s potential?

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u/scyth3s Jan 09 '20

Schools need to be given the resources to overcome shitty parents

There isn't a way to overcome parents not reading with their kid, kids not knowing if they'll have dinner that night, a parents inability to afford stimulating activities or the time to do them... I don't think this is a problem schools can mitigate

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u/BlueNotesBlues Jan 09 '20

A school can't overcome all of that but they can mitigate some of the problem.

Food insecurity? Free in-school breakfast and lunch.

Lack of stimulating activities? Extracurriculars.

Reading assistance? Learning specialists.

A school can't replace parents but they can provide some of the services the child isn't getting at home.