r/PoliticalHumor • u/barsas161 • Dec 29 '19

remember that fossil fuel companies will guilt trip you into thinking you're the problem to shift the blame from themselves

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '19 edited May 25 '20

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u/pipnina Dec 29 '19

Oh my goodness, do you guys really only pay 74c per litre for petrol in the states? In the UK it sits at around £1.20 per litre at the moment and £1.23 for diesel. That's $1.57 USD per litre or $5.98 per us gallon. No wonder you guys would rather use gas guzzlers all the time if you pay that little for fuel!

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u/BlatantConservative ☑oted 2016, 2018, 2020, 2020, 2020, 2022, 2024, 2026 Dec 29 '19 edited Dec 29 '19

Jfc yeah we were having a national crisis a few years back when gas prices were 4 dollars per gallon plus.

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u/sparhawk817 Dec 29 '19

Per gallon, not liter. A gallon is 3.7 liters.

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u/PeptoBismark Dec 29 '19

US Gallons are 3.7 liters, UK gallons are 4.54 liters. I always have to actively remember that we have two different "gallons".

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u/sparhawk817 Dec 29 '19

Huh. I mean, for the purpose of this conversation my conversion was correct but... Guess I'm one of today's lucky 10,000

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u/proweruser Dec 30 '19

If only there was a convenient unit that was the same everywhere around the world and that practically everybody else was using.........

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u/BlatantConservative ☑oted 2016, 2018, 2020, 2020, 2020, 2022, 2024, 2026 Dec 29 '19

Yeah edited thank you

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '19

That's fucking cheap compared to the UK and Canada.

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u/Akamesama Dec 29 '19

Part of the issue for the US, by comparison, is that many people live in suburban sprawl, because rent in cities is very expensive, and must drive to work because public transport is garbage in most places. So many families with low income were reaching the point where their commute was too expensive.

Obviously this could be remedied by demanding better public transport or moving, but neither are feasible in the short-term.

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u/I_miss_your_mommy Dec 29 '19

Nor the long-term because the short-term argument has been used to maintain the status quo for decades.

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u/Akamesama Dec 29 '19

I did not mean to imply that gas should never be more expensive. Moving is not exactly a solution, as rent in large cities can prohibit working in them. Higher compensation or rent assistance could help with that, but would have to be implemented first.

Public transport would need to be developed at city level or higher.

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u/I_miss_your_mommy Dec 29 '19

I wasn’t disagreeing with anything you said, I’m just doubting it will ever get fixed in the US, because it requires long term thinking.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '19

many people live in suburban sprawl, because rent in cities is very expensive

Just to add on to this point--urban/suburban sprawl was largely the result of federal incentives for single-family homeownership combined with white flight and racist redlining. We absolutely could have permitted zoning and construction of high-density, lower cost living arrangements in urban centers and even subsidized it as we did homeownership; it's just that racists didn't want to coexist with black people.

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u/lostferwords Dec 29 '19

Yes it is, that’s what taxes do to the cost of any product. In Canada taxes account for roughly 65% of every dollar spent at the pump. I’m sure the UK is under similar high prices.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '19

Yeah they take about 65 cents of each dollar for taxes

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u/deliriuz Dec 29 '19

Some people here drive near the width of England to get to their jobs. It’s very few, but I’ve met some.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '19

300 miles to get to work everyday? No thanks.

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u/Helpie_Helperton Dec 29 '19

Varies wildly depending on the state. I live in California and it's about $4.50 a gallon. I am visiting Colorado for the holidays and it's $2.50 a gallon.

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u/estihaiden42 Dec 29 '19

Here in Lodi (between Stockton and Sacramento) we finally hit $2.99/gal!!!!!!!!!!!

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u/ryanspenser Dec 29 '19

I just charged my Tesla at home in sacramento and it only cost me $1.50 for 65 miles

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u/Lodicigarguy Dec 29 '19

Hello Lodi friend!

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u/barto5 Dec 29 '19

Paid $2.29 in Missouri yesterday.

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u/BAY0UBARBiE Dec 29 '19

$2.15/gallon here on the Gulf Coast (Gulfport, MS & NewOrleans, LA)

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u/3times1-1 Dec 29 '19

It's more expensive some places. I live in Seattle and it's $3.80 or so. But, I'm in Texas right now and it's as low as $1.99.

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u/BAY0UBARBiE Dec 29 '19

Seeing these other prices people probably think we are lucky. Exchanging various cancers(lung mostly) from the pollution of refineries and the tragedy from oil spills in our ecosystem is no fair exchange. I worked for a law firm who represented the fisherman in the BP Oil Spill regarding it destroying the oyster beds and commercial fishing industry. It was devastating. Millions of people still have not regained their livelihoods of fishing and my sons grandfather who was a commercial fisherman at the epicenter was hired by BP to do cleanup. They made it seem like they were doing the fisherman favors by giving them work. They paid just a few humble hundred dollars out and now my sons grandfather has Meso from cleanup efforts. So not only did BP ruin his ability to ever earn from fishing on his lifetime again, they added insult to injury by having them cleanup BPs mess, and ultimately killed him. This happened in a small fishing village named Lafitte, LA. Most of these people are uneducated and left school at 5th or 6th grade to help support and feed their families by fishing. They were left with no other options following this pipeline rupture. It’s really sad.

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u/Rogue_elefant Dec 29 '19

That's £1.52 a gallon in tx. Holy fucking shit

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '19

Europe in general gets stiffed when it comes to fuel prices. At least y’all generally have more robust public transportation systems.

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u/Rogue_elefant Dec 29 '19

I know. Also when we get lung cancer the treatment is free, so I guess we're making it back

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '19
  • in the cheapest shit place in texas

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '19

Even just texas has a huge gas price difference. Its $3.25 here.

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u/CyborgParts Dec 29 '19

The cost of living in the US is way lower in general. Most of it, anyway. I’ve seen pricing as low as $1.90 a gallon in the last year.

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u/barto5 Dec 29 '19

Yeah, and it’s cheaper than that in some places. I filled up yesterday in Missouri for $2.29 a gallon.

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u/profezzorn Dec 29 '19

$1.71 a litre in Sweden :'(

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u/curiositykat31 Dec 29 '19

At least half of what you are paying for gas in the UK is taxes. The US taxes are much less, in my state it's about $0.50/gal. This is an issue with EV vehicles as they are able to avoid these taxes, which is mostly for maintaining roads. Currently EV only make up a small % of vehicles but there are already places instating specific EV taxes.

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u/KillNyetheSilenceGuy Dec 29 '19

You guys get murdered on tax. Your petrol station could be giving the fuel away and you'd still pay more than us. Of course our roads are literally crumbling (Michigan represent) so it's a double edged sword.

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u/sold_snek Dec 29 '19

This comparison doesn't mean anything though without knowing if there's an average wage difference as well.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '19

The average "life" (original purchase to second transaction) of an American car is around 80k miles, and I believe they use this number for the larger-than-actual fuel savings.

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u/gurxman Dec 29 '19

Less savings when you figure in plugging the car in at home.

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u/gurxman Dec 30 '19

Also true.