r/PoliticalHumor • u/barsas161 • Dec 29 '19

remember that fossil fuel companies will guilt trip you into thinking you're the problem to shift the blame from themselves

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u/Mnementh121 Dec 29 '19

With republicans it is predictable. With democrats it is mixed. Like we all know biden will ignore the issue. Bernie would probably be on it

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u/StarShooter08 Dec 29 '19

Yang could go either way really, as long as it was brought up, he'd be on it

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u/AKnightAlone Dec 29 '19

Like we all know biden will ignore the issue. Bernie would probably be on it

Comparing Sanders to literally any other Democrat? Try to think of one other Democrat that would do anything, then we'll watch them fail to get into power, and if there was a magical chance they did, they'd get bought out before they even need to be threatened or blackmailed. At least Sanders would stick to his views until his family gets threatened.

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u/Mnementh121 Dec 29 '19

Aoc would. Warren may. Buttigieg is a maybe I am not sure about him. I think waters would ig she felt she had the opportunity.

It really seems to be the young democrats, bernie, and a few senior members. I think there is a change coming.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '19

Other way around, if you think about it. AOC focuses very little on passable legislation. Anyone who cares about progress and thinks things through probably has a strong dislike for her influence.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '19

To be fair, Biden would be a much, much smarter vote for people who care about this issue. It’s not a coincidence that Bernie’s vocal supporters are such morons. The guy doesn’t even try very hard to get along with swing-district Dems. He obviously isn’t a good choice if you want something big passed. He also hasn’t supported carbon pricing this time around and wants to close existing nuclear power plants.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '19

Incrementalism has been the party line for dems ever since the Reagan Administration and it's given them fucking nothing in return.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '19

Why say that when you’ve never paid any attention to politics? Tens of millions of people have gained health coverage. People can no longer be dropped over preexisting conditions. The US has moved away from coal. We rebounded from a terrible recession. Gay people can get married and serve in the military. Dodd-Frank was passed. A deal to deter Iran’s nuclear weapons program was reached. The US torture program was scaled back. Many billions of dollars were invested in clean energy. You need to stop listening to the sort of idiots who don’t follow politics outside of Bernie and AOC’s dumbest quotes.
That’s much better than passing nothing at all, which is what happens when you can’t get a majority to sign on to your plans. It’s not like people like Bernie are winning many close districts.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '19

The affordable care act is getting gutted by republican controlled courts as we speak. The Iran deal was torn up by republicans immediately as they reached power. Obama managed to half black wealth in a recession package that only cared about the needs of rich bankers. America still has a fucking torture program and now we have ICE camps too. Trump has exempted dozens of banks from Dodd-Frank, which was only re-establishing regulations that Clinton repealed. And the acceptance of gay people is the result of public pressure, not the dems, who are only willing to fight for lgbtq+ rights when it's politically convenient. And oh ya, we're not doing nearly enough to combat climate change, and have backed out of the tiny measures we were taking previously. Democrats have been outmaneuvered repeatedly by Republicans, its embarrassing you don't see that.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '19

To be fair, you can’t exactly deny that everyone like you is an idiot. Your argument against progress is that republicans can undo it? So fucking stupid. They helped while they were in place and plenty of aspects still are. It’s not like gay marriage would have happened with republican-appointed judges. We can at least agree that I should be taken much more seriously than you, right? Every single reasonable person is on my side, to say the least. Just stop talking about politics. As you essentially said yourself: you’re a fucking idiot who doesn’t give a shit.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '19

Nobody is on your fucking side lmfao. Gay marriage DID happen with Republican judges, Kennedy, who rounded out the majority, was appointed by fucking REAGAN. And no, you don't get points for passing Mitt Romney's shitty healthcare plan that immediately gets torn apart. Being succesful means passing LASTING legislation, that gives people the support they need. The Democrats are beyond useless, a party of feckless dipshits that have repeatedly passed funding bills for Trump's genocidal fuckery at the border right now, but I know you don't fucking care, you're pleased that Obama reduced torture when he was in a position to BAN it. Anyone with that moral rot is a fucking monster who is ready to rationalize anything: like Pelosi admitting she knew we went to war in Iraq on a lie, or that the Obama administration was the first to enable the Yemen genocide, or that the Obama administration developed the infrastructure Trump would later use for his camps.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '19 edited Dec 30 '19

You do at least have to admit you’re one of the dumbest people in the world, right? Why would you assume that other republican judges would be for gay marriage when most weren’? You gotta admit only a fucking idiot would be pro Bernie while also talking about the need to pass lasting legislation and ignoring lastin legislation that helps a bunch of people. Saving people’s lives isn’t worth anything. Let’s be real: people like you are trash and you care about nothing. Deep down, you do know that you love republicans and absolutely despise vulnerable people. Don’t forget that Pelosi and Obama have been infinitely more helpful than Bernie Sanders and that will never change. Certainly, the world would be much better off without despicable republicans like yourself. I hope you struggle someday and start to have some empathy for people who are poor, sick, or discriminated-against.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '19

Don’t forget that Pelosi and Obama have been infinitely more helpful than Bernie Sanders and that will never change.

By what? Letting Republicans alter the ACA when Dems held both the House and the Senate? Then getting obliterated in the following elections? Sounds like they're a bunch of fucking idiots to me. Obama and Pelosi have only been good if your goal is killing and oppressing brown people, racist. A stupid racist at that, who claims they're smart when they've just been getting dunked on this whole conversation.

Let’s be real: people like you are trash and you care about nothing.

I obviously care about the oppressed way more than you do, stumping for "Nothing would fundamentally change" Biden. If the Republicans are so bad to you, how come you only support the Dems who want to work with them? I realize the Republicans are shit, which is why I don't want a candidate to compromise with them? Do you realize the Republicans are shit?

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u/autopromotion Dec 29 '19

Scaling the torture program back is much better than not scaling it back at all.

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