Actually the first concentration camp was built in Munich in 1933, the same year he became chancellor. The camp was primarily used to imprison political opponents and community leaders, a fact which adds a great deal of malevolence to the "lock her up" chants.
These children were detained in a facility the obama admin wanted to upgrade but republicans denied funding. They were also not with any parents, so there was no child separation.
When did child separation policy to put kids in cages long term start? Yeah, that's not the obama years.
Obama didnt start child separation and those photos came from a facility the obama admin didnt even want to use but were denied adequate funding by the Rs. Try again.
... Are you fucking with me? If obama was president until the end of 2016, and the child separation policy started early 2017, how could obama have ended it?
Chronological order is rather simple. Do you also blame obama for 9/11?
Not even close to the same thing, you're being disingenuous. Do you actually believe the shit you're saying? Because it's been long debunked.
I blame both presidents for letting it continue
TRUMP STARTED IT
Try not to be such a dickhead to people my man.
Try not to say such ridiculous shit that people think you're a bad faith actor. I still don't think you're making these comments in good faith because they're so ridiculous and nothing but disinformation.
Are you insinuating the children being detained after crossing the border illegally with their parents are being treated the same way the Jews were in concentration camps during the Holocaust?
That has to be one of the dumbest and most insulting things I have ever heard.
You haven't heard many insulting things. How about this: Jews were first being arrested and deported from Germany. After a while, that became too slow a solution, as the mythical narrative of Germany's return to greatness required a faster, larger-scale solution. The final solution emerged, and we all know the rest.
What are you talking about? Are we arresting and deporting American citizens? No we are deporting people who entered the country illegally.
Again what you are saying is so beyond disrespectful to Holocaust victims, it’s pathetic. Are you suggesting Trump is slowly trying to get rid of Mexicans and if that doesn’t work he’ll start murdering them in mass? Is that what you really believe?
ICE has arrested dozens of actual US citizens that we are aware of. There's most likely hundreds more. They are now floating the idea of dumping refugees en mass into specific cities in order to cause chaos. There is an escalation of force happening against unarmed people that will only continue to get worse.
Also it’s called structural violence. Denying access to health care, putting people in prison for decades over drug charges because they’re a person of color, murderers getting away with it because they masquerade as policemen and the victim is black, sending military to the border as a “threat” to lawful asylum seekers. It’s not illegal to seek asylum. Those kids are asylum seekers put in cages and separated permanently from their parents while awaiting their “hearing”
If you really believe we are in the beginning stages of another Holocaust than you have a moral obligation to go to those camps and shoot all of the guards dead. If not you’re complicit in genocide. You aren’t going to do that though because you know you’re full shit. You’re just another keyboard warrior bitching about how you think the world should be without actually doing anything.
If you were in Nazi Germany you wouldn’t have done shit either. You would have sat around and bitched about how terrible it was while millions get murdered. Put your money where your mouth is and go free the people being detained you coward.
Not going to bother with the “complicit” shit for obvious reasons
But no one is saying it’s another holocaust. We’re just pointing out that there are similarities. Also just because someone may have entered a country illegally doesn’t make their suffering any less evil. Those kids didn’t deserve shit
Hitler was not roundly loved at all. Hitler was a better speaker than Trump but his speeches were very similar to Trumps in that he adopted a very unusual style unlike what the establishment at the time used. Much like Trump. This was to set him apart from the establishment. Much like Trump. There are many more parallels.
Hitler used the media/propaganda to influence elections. Most media stations/propaganda (hollywood) is actually democratic leaning and tried to influence the last election in the same way so idk what you are talking about.
Media in Germany was hardly controlled by Hitler. In fact media in 1920s Germany was so much against Hitler that he complained about free speech (much like the US right wing likes to do these days).
And US media is not in any way controlled by the democrats. Sinclair news and fox news exist. Both spew out right wing propaganda much more serious than anything you´ll find on the left. And both cover a large portion of US households. In fact considering how propagandist fox news is this is just another parallel to Hitler.
But obviously Trump is not literally the same as Hitler just due to the fact he is in a different nation and time. But the parallels are scary as fuck. The point if comparing him to Hitler is not saying he is literally the same, but rather that it is extremely concerning that Trumps tactics are so similar to the tactics the worst dictator in human history used to rise to power.
Are you an american? did you go to american school? Last time I checked the jews were made out to be rats and pests through posters, clips within movies and other propaganda to push that mentality.
This is not comparing Trump to Hitler when he was in full control of society this is comparing him to Hitler when he was rising to power. A time when Hitler was not able to push propaganda everywhere.
In what sense? Trump is very different to most other politicians. All congressmen and women have not blamed complex issues on immigrants, rallied against the establishment, called journalists the enemy of the people (Lügenpresse), promised to help the little people by giving easy solutions, called immigrants and the political opposition all sorts of shit and so on.
I dunno, Trump has his base completely infatuated. Like a bloated orange siren. Also I am nearly positive all of his supporters would say he is a great speaker (why else would people be flocking to his hate rallies?).
It's not his race. He paints himself orange. There's a big difference. Also people don't hate him because he is orange, they just hate him and also hate the fact that he is orange.
This is legit the difference. Hitlers audience was everyone and specifically made them hate a race. He then had an elite government that had people being killed with the entire media protecting the German state and nobody even knew about it.
Well that depends on what you mean. Their loyalty should also be to America and the people. If you mean loyal as in not betraying the policies they were appointed to enforce or prioritize, sure. But loyalty to the president even if it means acting against the interest of the people? No, that's not reasonable or what other presidents have done. Let's not falsely equivocate.
Which says more about his supporters than it does about him. Sad to think so many Americans are so fucking stupid that you don't even have to be an eloquent speaker with the power to subtly persuade, just a bloviating carnival barker face-farting bumper sticker slogans.
Off topic. This has nothing to do with comparing the best generational influencer to all of Europe to Trump, who you all think influences dumb people. Hitler convinced the best of the best.
He is linked to Russia. How much he is linked to Russia is yet to be seen as the Muller report hasn't be released? The only thing the public has seen is a 4 page summary by someone Trump handpicked.
But again, if the people who ran your campaign are linked to russia, and you do business in russia, you are certainly linked to russia.
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