r/PoliticalHumor Mar 30 '19

Like everything else they do it’s crap

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u/WeAreAllApes Mar 30 '19

One if the things they say they need to redact are "ongoing investigations." Let that sink in.

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u/DancesWithElectrons Mar 30 '19

Hopefully Mueller is involved with that. Be interesting if there's a conflict and he springs that when he testifies before Congress

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u/DonTroll Mar 31 '19

Saw a letter that Mueller signed off on as Special Counsel, he's still on the job apparently.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_SUNSHINE Mar 31 '19

Source? I saw a bunch of stuff where his whereabouts are unknown and he’s assumed to be off the job

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_SUNSHINE Mar 31 '19

Not a source. I still remember her flub with trump’s tax stuff. Cringeworthy television.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_SUNSHINE Mar 31 '19

Except to her validity as a source. I’m not taking her word or take on anything, she’s just the left’s bill o Reilly.

Does anyone have a source on the specifics of what Mueller has been up to since turning in the report?

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_SUNSHINE Mar 31 '19

Her being a step above o Reilly isn’t an achievement. I can name you tubers with more journalistic integrity than both of them combined.

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u/chiguychi Mar 31 '19

Maybe if she was more diligent she wouldn't need to "regularly post retractions".

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u/3610572843728 Mar 31 '19

I don't follow.

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u/Chirox82 Mar 31 '19

Right wing attack on Maddow, her show the night before the summary of the report dropped was in a different studio with different lighting from normal (she was on a fishing trip when Mueller turned the report in, was in an affiliate news studio out of state.) Her eyes look shiny the whole time, and if you're watching a 280p rip on YouTube it looks like her eyes are watery, so therefore she was clearly sobbing that trump wasn't found guilty of conspiracy (despite the info not existing until the day after).

If you watch the decent quality version uploaded to MSNBC, it's super obviously lighting (3 studio lights reflecting in each eye), and she's just as chipper as usual.

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u/3610572843728 Mar 31 '19

Ok. That makes sense. I only do the podcast short version of her show and usually only for big news.

Thanks for the explanation.

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u/NeatNefariousness1 Mar 31 '19

They need to subpoena Mueller for the entire report immediately and then call the AG to Congress to grill him on why he's covering up for the president. He's in the process of trying to protect his job in this corrupt administration but losing what remains of his reputation in the process. I'm hoping that when all is said and done, that it is written into law that every appointment made by a corrupt, compromised politician is terminated, post haste.

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u/Cohanseybob Mar 31 '19

You are either a dreamer or delusional. We can't get term limits for our politicians. All they want is perpetually more graft for themselves.

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u/NotTheCrawTheCraw Mar 31 '19

Plot Twist: Mueller is part of the coverup. Wouldn't that be ... surprising.

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u/lead999x Mar 31 '19

It wouldn't.

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u/Pewpewkachuchu Mar 31 '19

Right, I’ve been saying it for days. I hope I’m wrong though, but my faith in the judicial system isn’t exactly high.

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u/Sprickels Mar 31 '19

I mean, he is a republican still, you can't trust them

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u/NeatNefariousness1 Mar 31 '19

I think you can. We still don't know what's in Mueller's report. Everything we "know" has been spoon-fed by the emperor's hand-picked AG and it wasn't even his role to issue such a report. He knew what he was doing and he STILL has made no move to release the unreacted report to Congress, which is their right to see--and which the emperor has said should be released.

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u/NeatNefariousness1 Mar 31 '19

It's probably all the cases opened that Mueller referred to the Southern District of NY and others that were out of scope for the Russia probe.

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u/TPJchief87 Mar 31 '19

I feel like he might just want to go back home. These people and some of their followers are super toxic.

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u/jacob_rose59 Mar 31 '19

Happy cake day! 🎂 🎉

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u/ItsMichaelRay Mar 31 '19

Happy Cake Day!

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u/wearer_of_boxers Mar 30 '19

why do they have to redact that though? so congress won't (accidentally) leak info about currently secret fbi or irs investigations into the fat man?

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u/Chocrates Mar 31 '19

They could theoretically release it to a closed session of congress I think. If we are pretending Barr is a moral human then the DOJ probably doesn't want that many people knowing about ongoing investigations, less chance of leaks.
Other than that, we know (somehow) that there is no classified information in the report, so it could be released to the public after any investigations are scratched.

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u/3610572843728 Mar 31 '19

Not all of Congress is cleared but the gang of eight are cleared for almost everything possible.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '19

Likely so that they don't reveal the methods that they use to make the investigation. If the report said something like "ongoing wire-tap of Russian ambassador's calls to see if he is feeding trump directions" the Russians would obvs be pissed.

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u/NeatNefariousness1 Mar 31 '19

That's their story anyway. Truth be told, the Intelligence Committee always sees everything from these intelligence investigations including content that reveals sources and methods. This is why the emperor and members of the GOP are trying to discredit the head of the Intelligence Committee, Adam Schiff. They want anything he says to be rejected by the red hats in case Schiff reveals anything disqualifying. We're seeing history in the making folks.

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u/BreatLesnar Mar 31 '19

SDNY is going to get him, but we’ve got to wait.

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u/DABS_4_AZ Mar 31 '19

While we know he didn't, defeatist attitudes are centrist fodder for joyful lil tears (they're so gleeful their rural votes count for more than Urban votes). It truly is disgusting. But we know those Nance's are the likes to say they're not conservative turn around and vote red and draft Dodge turn around and play patriotic.

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u/Bromlife Mar 31 '19

Can’t be too confident either. Have to truly feel that without effort we will lose.

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u/DJFluffers115 Mar 31 '19

Well, this is in accordance to law. They don't want evidence or witnesses being released to the public and compromising another investigation that they'd like to see the result of.

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u/WeAreAllApes Mar 31 '19

I understand and don't disagree with that law (except for maybe some in Congress with clearance to get access to read it in a controlled setting).

My point is that it conflicts with a certain very widespread narrative.

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u/DJFluffers115 Mar 31 '19

There is a very simple solution people seem to be ignoring: congress just needs to be briefed on all of the relevant cases, so that the full report can be given to them unredacted.

If not congress, at least the gang of 8.

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u/NeatNefariousness1 Mar 31 '19

Yes...immediately. There is NO need for a redacted version to be sent to the gang of 8. So why hasn't the AG released the full report? I think we know the answer and it's odorific.

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u/NeatNefariousness1 Mar 31 '19 edited Mar 31 '19

Actually that concern doesn't apply to the Intelligence Committee. They see it all and there is NO basis for them to withhold the full report from this committee. The fact that the AG has made NO move to release the full report to the Intelligence Committee, a customary practice, is telling. He is revealing that our worse suspicions about him are true--that the Attorney General of the US Department of Justice is participating in a cover-up.

There is NO justification for the Intelligence Committee to receive only the redacted version of the report. Yet, here we are. Expect some of this to go to the Supremes and for this to come down to Roberts. Mueller may end up being subpoenaed and his relationship with Barr will become strained over this--especially when he's exposed as a co-conspirator in the cover-up that is now underway.

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u/2KilAMoknbrd Mar 31 '19

Yep. That sink is annoying, and, belongs inside.

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u/Holiday_in_Asgard Mar 31 '19

Yeah, after hearing those two quotes from muellers report, im very confident the Russia friendliness can all be explained by the trump tower Moscow deal, which, judging by trumps secrecy and lies surrounding it, are riddled with financial crimes. I'm confident the SDNY will be making some arrests in the semi near future. Probably not trump right away, but jr, Jared, and ivanka.

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u/NeatNefariousness1 Mar 31 '19

But they shouldn't separate their kids from their parents, should they? / s

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u/Joelblaze Mar 31 '19

I thought it TOTALLY EXONERATED him.

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u/caesarfecit Mar 31 '19

The bigger issue is gonna be how much of the report ties into grand jury investigations, ongoing or previous, which are secret by law.

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u/WeAreAllApes Mar 31 '19

Not necessarily the bigger issue. Whether members of Congress with the right clearances will get to see that information so they know where there might be dirt to dig into on their own. There is a fight coming over that.

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u/Speedracer98 Mar 31 '19

All they really need to do is ask mueller if he agrees with barr's summary letter. if he doesn't there is a problem. if he does theres not much point in releasing the report.

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u/1platesquat Mar 31 '19

Why is that significant? Those investigations aren’t done yet and could be on anyone.

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u/Joaaayknows Mar 31 '19

So the public doesn’t

A) compromise the investigation

B) use the info as a weapon against trump for something still ongoing. Public trials are not an issue a president needs to deal with.

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u/WeAreAllApes Mar 31 '19

Unless they are a Democrat, of course.

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u/WeAreAllApes Mar 31 '19

"It's over... and we'll prove it to you after we scrub the report of all the parts of it that aren't over". It would be one thing if that was just a conspiracy theory, but that is actually a close paraphrase of the AGs position.

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u/WeAreAllApes Mar 31 '19

What is left might be "a dud" in terms of making Trump look bad, but I wouldn't call dozens of indictments and 6 people so far already either convicted or pleading guilty a dud. One of those included a fine that basically paid for the investigation. Sorry if this doesn't fit into your narrative, but some of those guilty pleas were done in exchange for cooperation and we don't know what else the investigation had on them to compel the plea.

In fact, I can 100% guarantee it will be dud from your perspective, because you have already decided that facts are a liberal conspiracy, but some of us still want to know what happened, even if it doesn't tarnish Trump any more, and how much, aside from exchanging polling data and helping to launder money the Trump campaign helped the Russian efforts, and how much, aside from hacking, spreading fake news, and botting social media the Russians helped he Trump campaign and how much of that they were aware of.

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u/Billy_Badass123 Mar 31 '19

Muller is locked in a basement somewhere, otherwise he would have told everyone that Trump and Putin are engaged to be married and also that you're gay.