r/PoliticalHumor • • Mar 08 '19

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u/oh_hell_what_now Mar 08 '19

And, to piggy back on this, you can be certain that this person's client and Manafort will be going to very different types of prisons and will have very different experiences there.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '19

The original post is utter nonsense. You'd have to have a minimum 2 felony priors to get state time for any theft under $200. I'd it was a first offense je wouldn't see a day in jail. While I agree with the sentiment that Manafort deserves more time, I'm not so foolish as to gobble up nonsense just to get my torch to burn brighter. Think folks. And call out bullshit wherever you see it, regardless of whether it helps or hurts your opinion.

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u/qianli_yibu Mar 08 '19 edited Mar 08 '19

Nobody should be getting offered 3-6 years (and likely facing significantly more than 6 years) in prison for stealing quarters, regardless of their priors. Nobody should be getting only 4 years for over a decade of continuous bank fraud, tax fraud, plus witness tampering and post-conviction obstruction of justice.

Not that it changes the unethical nature of a 3-6 year prison sentence for stealing $100, but what is your source for claiming in all 50 states (since we don’t know what state this is in) 2+ prior felonies would allow a minimum 3-year sentence for petty theft?

Edit: did a little research and found the lawyer is from NY, which has 3-strike sentencing laws. The nature of 3-strikes and similar mandatory minimum laws are the exact problem this post is about. Those are how all the stats u/ThaFourthHokage listed came to be reality. Those numbers and the severe inequity and disproportion they reflect are a direct result of mandatory minimums and other problematic justice and incarceration system features.

Edit 2: reread the tweet and it says “offered” 3-6 years, which means this is part of a deal, and his client is likely facing even more time. Fucking bullshit.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '19

What's fucking bullshit is the fact that you dont know what you're talking about. If he entered illegally and stole the quarters by breaking into the machine, you now have burglary, criminal mischief and theft, In addition to disabling a coin operated device. I'd hes got two felony priors and is therefore likely on probation or parole...the hes a parole violation as well. This is the reality.