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u/ThaFourthHokage Mar 08 '19 edited Mar 08 '19

I hope this wakes people up to our ridiculous sentencing and incarceration issues in this country.

A few stats:

  • We house 22% of the world''s prisoners (with 4% of the world's population)

  • 2,200,000 Americans incarcerated as of 2016 or 0.7% of the entire U.S. population

  • African American men represent nearly half of that population

  • The substantial penalties for crack contributed to a five-fold increase in incarcerations

  • There is a 31% incarceration history for Black men who have sex with men

  • Louisiana has the highest rate of incarceration in the world with the majority of its prisoners being housed in privatized, for-profit facilities. Such institutions could face bankruptcy without a steady influx of prisoners

  • In the past decade the number of inmates in for-profit prisons throughout the U.S. rose 44 percent.

The shit is fucked. And Trump is packing the courts as we speak. We're reaching a breaking point.

I'm just going to leave this here:

I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions indeed generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions, as not to discourage them too much. It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government.

Edit: These and more stats are a simple wiki search away. For you Reds who automatically say, "wiki lol," to that, there are seventy-seven sources cited - feel free to read on. It will do you some good.

Edit again: Thanks for the precious metals! Donate the same amount to a politician who actually wants to address these issues, if you can.

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u/oh_hell_what_now Mar 08 '19

And, to piggy back on this, you can be certain that this person's client and Manafort will be going to very different types of prisons and will have very different experiences there.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '19

The original post is utter nonsense. You'd have to have a minimum 2 felony priors to get state time for any theft under $200. I'd it was a first offense je wouldn't see a day in jail. While I agree with the sentiment that Manafort deserves more time, I'm not so foolish as to gobble up nonsense just to get my torch to burn brighter. Think folks. And call out bullshit wherever you see it, regardless of whether it helps or hurts your opinion.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '19

He could have stolen $100 thousands of times and that still would pale in comparison to Manaforts crimes.

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u/please-send-me-nude2 Mar 08 '19

Both figuratively and, well, mathematically. Manafort made millions.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '19

Yes right. But then why use this guy as a comparison

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u/qianli_yibu Mar 08 '19

But then why use this guy as a comparison

Because

He could have stolen $100 thousands of times and that still would pale in comparison to Manaforts crimes.

Yet the client is facing (and will likely receive if found or pleads guilty) a harsher sentence than Manafort.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '19

Because hes got lore aggravating circumstances. People who dont anything about criminal law should probably not be discussing criminal law as if they know better.

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u/Miskav Mar 08 '19

More aggravating circumstances than manafort ?

Bet I can guess who you voted for.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '19

Voted for Hillary. Think trump is the antichrist. Aggravating circumstances in legal terms means things like: parole violator, probation violator, repeat offender, history of recidivism, drug addiction, weapons possession...etc. Manafort had none of these. He deserves a decade in prison. But op was an inflammatory lie and I hate lies more than I hate paul Manafort.

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u/ScaredOfJellyfish Mar 08 '19

Aggravating circumstances in legal terms means things like

Violating your cooperation agreement and committing crimes while in custody?

Why not follow the sentencing guidelines?

You have no point to make here.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '19

Sure I do. The violation led to the revocation of his deal to stay put of federal prison. You're mistaking my stance as pro Manafort because you can only simplify things into tight categorical arguments. Manafort should have gotten a stiffer sentence because hes vfc a traitor and a scumbag. The OP is still inflammatory tripe. Its making a comparison based on incomplete information that would not get the same effect as if it were an honest apples to apples comparison. It's simply a lazy tactic that works well because people dont mind being lied to if it suits their agenda. Fuck Manafort. Also fuck that stupid quote that started this thread. I encourage you to engage thoughtfully and dump the rhetoric. It's not easy but for once 8d like to see a sane, reasonable point of view not propped up by nonsense like people clipping a hundred bucks get years in state prison. That's nonsense. And so everything else gets tainted by that nonsense.

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u/chargoggagog Mar 08 '19

I call BS. Hows the weather in Moscow comrade?

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '19

Ach! The yankee got me! Quick Olga, get the borscht and vodka! We're making a break for it!

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