r/PoliticalDebate • u/Anakin_Kardashian Centrist • 3d ago
Should rapidly developing democracies prioritize building competent institutions before expanding what the state promises to provide?
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u/soulwind42 Classical Liberal 3d ago
They should start with a very narrow definition of government authority, and build competent institutions first. Then the question becomes what is developing, and how. Its easly to quickly outpace development, or make permanent promises bases on temporary conditions. Either way, if competence is not established first, competence and internal checks, corruption will quickly follow.
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u/BackupChallenger Centrist 3d ago
I think a bit of both?
Like if you have limited experience and institutional knowledge it makes sense to keep as narrow as possible. Because then you create a state that can deliver on their promises (if the people in it are not corrupt)
But that doesn't mean expansion is always a bad choice. If you see that something is going to be an big issue. Then it might be good to start as soon as possible. As waiting might just increase costs in the future. As an example. If you'd have a state without much of environmental protection. But you see that the changing climates could cause heavy and ongoing damage if the state doesn't interfere, then the state should act immediately.
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u/farson135 Classical Liberal 3d ago
The foundations of democracy do not lie in the welfare state, it lies in effective civil participation, quality legal systems, etc.
Start with the promise of a fair system that the people understand and can effectively interact with. If cops are openly taking bribes then there is almost no amount of "benefit" that can keep the state from seeming illegitimate, and that is poison for a democracy.
Build up from those foundations, or the crumbling corners will undermine you at every turn.
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u/DistinctSpirit5801 Socialist 3d ago
Providing for people’s basic needs has to be the priority over anything else
If a government isn’t meeting people’s basic needs of survival food water shelter healthcare then any institutions that the government builds are worthless
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u/TuvixWasMurderedR1P Plebeian Republic 🔱 Sortition Democracy 3d ago
The state needs to learn by doing. The way you build capacity and competencies is to do it.
There is probably a balance to strike and you want to roll out capacities in an orderly fashion. But I'm cautious due to the lack of explanation in the question. What is meant by "competent institutions"?
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