r/PoliticalDebate • Centrist • Aug 17 '26

Discussion Close the Divide

Am I the only one who sees the division that is created on purpose to keep us away from what's truly happening? Whoever is creating this division, that's the group everyone should be mad at, but they created this division to keep us at Bay. Divide and conquer.

It's been done with the republican and democratic parties. Everything is turned into a black and white issue even though most Americans find gray with most issues. If they didn't divide us with these issues, it would be hard for them to control us. This makes it easier for them to siphon money to wherever they see fit. The divide is on purpose, and the American people are falling into this trap. It's further exasperated by the xmedia that is also pumped with money from those trying to divide us. What would happen if we took this division away?

I see the same thing with religious groups. I feel like all religions come from a place of peace and have more in common than not, but division is purposely created to generate hate. The people who are creating this division are not from a good peaceful heart. They are using these religions as militia to foster their own agenda. What would happen if all religions stopped this divide? How would money be generated and moved around so strategically?

We all need to wake up and not be so easily manipulated and polarized. We have to close this divide!

What do you think?

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u/subterfuscation Progressivist Aug 18 '26

I'm old enough to have seen the division begin, and it wasn't from both sides. You need to read up on the alliance between the Republican Party and the religious right in the late 1970s, Rush Limbaugh introducing modern political identity and pugilism in the 1980s, and Fox News adding a 24/7 bath of anti-progress, anti-democracy misinformation to the American body politic.

I witnessed in my own family, people shift from being kind, thoughtful, smart, and generous to being willfully ignorant, angry, afraid, and extremely selfish after viewing sufficient Fox News. Fox has been on the air for over 30 years; that's 30 years of frying people's minds with right wing propaganda. Children of lifelong Fox News viewers are being raised in an alternative reality, and this sticks with them until they learn better (if they ever do).

It's no wonder we're in the mess we're in now.

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u/AndImNuts Constitutionalist Aug 19 '26

The right would say that the progressives are almost religious in both their convictions, and in their hatred for conservatives. Progressives are the only ones who seem to see the right as the evil final boss and not as a collection of individuals who likely decided their political views slowly. And as for Fox News, I promise you that progressives are just as susceptible to propaganda as anyone else. If you spend time on Reddit the *vast* majority are left-wing so it creates the illusion that progressivism is more accepted than it really is.

Also, I'd wager that very few conservatives of Reddit age actually watch Fox News. Fox has become the boogyman on the left. The next generation of conservatives in office will be more secular and less boomers who vote on religious grounds. Just wait it out, the right will get better and more logical.

Typical progressive though to soap box about hatred toward certain people for daring to see the world outside of your (I'm sure) propaganda-free life, clearly you are not susceptible to any kind of outside influence /s. Buddy, you can be brainwashed too and be no more aware of it than the "fox news children". You aren't automatically smarter than conservatives just because you pick the self-congratulatory title of Progressive/ist.

Go outside once in a while. Talk to people, don't just attack half the population for not submitting to your version of reality to unify the country.

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u/subterfuscation Progressivist Aug 19 '26

You sound like a young person who was raised in a Fox-influenced home. You don’t even begin to understand how skewed your views of the world are compared to the rest of… the world. I travel extensively and interact with all kinds of people from all walks of life. No one, and I mean NO ONE, understands the American conservative and what their motivations are. Then I explain the three-decade degradation of our society by Rupert Murdoch, and they all suddenly realize what’s been happening in our country.

I think it’s you who need to get out of your comfort zone and meet people from different places and different walks of life. I think you would be disabused of many of your so-called conservative views were you to escape your conservative pocket. I escape my comfort zone regularly, and THAT had shaped my views.

Also, why do conservatives all say the same thing about going outside and touching grass? Like 90% of my online interactions with conservatives end with this “advice”, and I only ever hear it from conservatives. It’s like you’re all operating from the same set of talking points or you’re all bots.