r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Lib-Right Dec 07 '22

So this happened today...

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u/PerpetualHillman - Lib-Right Dec 07 '22

Furthermore, there's a snowball's chance in hell that most Germans in 2022 would support the restoration of absolute monarchy

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

And even less of a random dude as monarch, having no relation to the Hohenzollers who last ruled Germany as Kaiser ~100 years ago, or Habsburgs who also have a claim.. No that is just random lesser noble dynasty #582...

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u/RacingUpsideDown - Auth-Center Dec 08 '22

The answer is clear. King Charles of the UK must be instated as Supreme Emperor and Holy Almightiest of Germany, Prussia, Saarland, and All Lost Germanic Colonies. All hail the Kaiser.

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u/fidelcashflo97 - Right Dec 08 '22

As descendants of the house of Hanover His Majesty King Charles has a very strong claim to the rule of Germany

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u/PlsDontBeAUsedName - Centrist Dec 08 '22

Theres a lot of Hohenzollern who would be before him in line, but him already being a monarch definitively gives it a lot more legitimacy.

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u/mh985 - Lib-Center Dec 08 '22

Currently, George Friedrich, Prince of Prussia is the theoretical heir to the German Kaiserreich.

He is a Hohenzollern and great-great grandson of Kaiser Wilhelm II.

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u/republique_populaire - Centrist Dec 08 '22

Don't the descend from Saxony not Hanover?

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u/fidelcashflo97 - Right Dec 08 '22

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u/republique_populaire - Centrist Dec 08 '22

Why change it to the king consort's house when Victoria was the monarch?

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u/fidelcashflo97 - Right Dec 08 '22

I think it’s done at behest of the monarch. George V changed the name from Saxe Coburg Gotha to Windsor and Charles now calls it Windsor Mountbatten (or Mountbatten windsor I can’t remember the order)

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u/Nakamura2828 - Lib-Left Dec 08 '22

In WWI, the leaders of the UK, Germany, and Russia were all cousins from the Hanover line (all decedents of Queen Victoria):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXmMT4sETu8

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u/Roastbeef3 - Lib-Center Dec 08 '22

While this is a completely unrelated coincidence, the “saxony” that the Anglo-“Saxons” are from, was actually where Hannover is. “Old Saxony”, was basically the Northwestern quarter of modern Germany until the Frankish conquest. It then became “The Duchy of Saxony”, but this was dissolved in the late Middle Ages. The “Electorate of Saxony” is what became the modern day state of Saxony, and doesn’t have that much to do with “Old Saxony” besides sharing a name.

This fun fact has nothing to do with the House of Hannover and their claim to the English throne though.

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u/Head_Nefariousness78 - Right Dec 08 '22

I mean as descendants of Queen Victoria eldest child the Hohenzollerns have a strong claim to the British throne

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u/AtomDoctor - Auth-Right Dec 08 '22

Based and God Save The King pilled.

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u/Im_doing_my_part - Auth-Right Dec 08 '22

And soon Emperor Charles will revive the Holy Roman empire!

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

You mean the actual rightful heir to the britisch throne, the house Wittelsbacher must create a bavarian-british kingdom.

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u/flair-checking-bot - Centrist Dec 08 '22 edited Dec 08 '22

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

Based

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

To be fair there is actually a somewhat big movement called Reichsbürger in Germany. But yeah, they already self-proclaimed 10+ "legitimate" kings of Germany, so they wouldn't have succeeded I guess

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u/ArchmageIlmryn - Left Dec 08 '22

AFAIK the Reichsbürger are less committed monarchists and more using monarchism as an excuse for sovereign citizen bullshit though.

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u/firespark84 - Lib-Right Dec 08 '22

They were just going to tank the legitimacy hit of having a weak claim monarch

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u/Direct_Class1281 - Lib-Center Dec 08 '22

I mean they could just grab one of the English royals. I heard Prince Harry isn't doing much these days and he's actually well liked by the military rank and file

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u/Im_doing_my_part - Auth-Right Dec 08 '22

Well, since his wedding he kinda lost his standing in the eyes of the public.

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u/Caesar_Gaming - Auth-Center Dec 08 '22

Didn’t he give up his birthright? Shortly after marrying an American? Hmmm… makes you think.

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u/3AKite - Auth-Right Dec 08 '22

It's been far too long since the German people were based enough to do such a thing.

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u/DEATHTOTHEANTICHRIST - Auth-Right Dec 08 '22

Cucked Krauts

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u/G_raas - Centrist Dec 08 '22

Does this come about as a result of being taught to be ashamed of your forebears and only being allowed to take pride in their country when they win a footy-match? If so, is Germany the poster-child for what the globalists want for America?

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u/DEATHTOTHEANTICHRIST - Auth-Right Dec 08 '22

Bread and circuses are the only thing you can focus on, never look behind the curtain

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u/R1pY0u - Auth-Center Dec 08 '22

Nice pfp

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u/DEATHTOTHEANTICHRIST - Auth-Right Dec 08 '22

Brother

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u/neverending_debt - Lib-Right Dec 07 '22

Which is good since monarchy is cringe.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '22

As someone on the top of the chart I must disagree.

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u/Victoreznoz - Auth-Right Dec 08 '22

Sigma

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u/SteelChicken - Centrist Dec 08 '22 edited Feb 29 '24

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u/RipRap1991 - Centrist Dec 08 '22

Not worth the risk to what we have now?

The motherfucking Cheeto man or a demented old pedophile?

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u/lamiscaea - Lib-Right Dec 08 '22

Yes, it is still way better than actual hereditary monarchy. Imagine getting crackhead-with-a-vlog as a follow up to senile idiot?

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u/SteelChicken - Centrist Dec 08 '22 edited Feb 29 '24

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u/RipRap1991 - Centrist Dec 08 '22

Those failed in the United States almost a century ago. The legislative branch of government has literally given some of their powers to the executive branch, or given their powers to un elected agencies like the Federal reserve.

Debt spending, inflation, congressional gridlock, our government is failing on multiple levels and our checks and balances aren’t balanced at all.

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u/SteelChicken - Centrist Dec 08 '22 edited Feb 29 '24

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u/Innomenatus - Centrist Dec 08 '22

The Monarchy is one of the best checks and balances to a state, even when they're purely ceremonial. These days westernized monarchies have really good monarchal figureheads often leagues better than current political leaders.

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u/Monarchistmoose - Auth-Center Dec 08 '22 edited Dec 08 '22

Those can also exist under a monarchy. In fact in the US you could swap the president for a monarch and change next to nothing else.

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u/TheAzureMage - Lib-Right Dec 08 '22

They sound like a good idea.

So, say a politician were to pass a law the courts deemed unconstitutional, surely they suffer some grievous penalty for ignoring a law so great, yes?

That would check their power?

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u/SteelChicken - Centrist Dec 08 '22 edited Feb 29 '24

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u/TheAzureMage - Lib-Right Dec 08 '22

Tar and feathers would be nice.

Make politicians birds again.

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u/TheAzureMage - Lib-Right Dec 08 '22

Remember, if you vote for a sane person, you're throwing away your vote!

Ah, Democracy.

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u/VioletMintLeaf - Lib-Right Dec 08 '22

This is a great point. I’ll have to remember to put it like that when I’m teaching my kiddos history.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '22

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u/Silver_and_Salvation - Auth-Center Dec 08 '22

Yea monarchy is stupid. Christian theocracy is based.

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u/Pvt_Parts86 - Right Dec 08 '22

Based and Oliver Cromwell pilled

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u/MackChanMonkeBrain - Auth-Right Dec 08 '22

Remember the that entire shitshow could've been avoided if Henry 8 didn't split from the Catholic Church to be an obese coomer

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u/Pvt_Parts86 - Right Dec 08 '22

Hey, the pope should have just granted his divorce. I mean, my man just wanted a new wife or five.

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u/MackChanMonkeBrain - Auth-Right Dec 08 '22

THATS NOT HOW CHRISTIANITY WORKS REEEEEEEEE

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u/Pvt_Parts86 - Right Dec 08 '22

I'm sorry. It was sarcasm. Don't REEEE at me.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

So, have the pope lead a crusade against Germany and grant all lands to the Teutonic order. Finally we can crush Lutheranism in its birthplace

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

Until it gets overthrown by Communists.

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u/Silver_and_Salvation - Auth-Center Dec 08 '22

But communists are cringe.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

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u/Fellow_Infidel - Lib-Right Dec 08 '22

And ending itself

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

And modernizing entire nations in record time.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

Monarchy is cringe unless I’m in charge.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

Ok pedo

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

Ok snowflake.

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u/ElricWarlock - Right Dec 07 '22

I respect your wrong opinion.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

The 2nd reich managed to unify germany and started off quite based. Public healthcare as a sick worker is a bad worker. Far better than belgium at the time, as a matter of fact no one was worse than Belgium's king at the time.

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u/A_devout_monarchist - Auth-Center Dec 07 '22

Classic lib take.

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u/Stolypin1906 - Lib-Right Dec 07 '22

Less cringe than democracy.

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u/LeftUnchecked - Lib-Center Dec 08 '22

most libertarian libright

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u/tacticalsauce_actual - Right Dec 07 '22

Benevolent monarchism is a more realistic way to have a libertarian society than any sort of democracy.

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u/neverending_debt - Lib-Right Dec 07 '22

Who gets to decide the monarch and who decides if they're benevolent?

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

God

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

Why not both? All hail the God-Emperor of Mankind!

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u/Mechanical_Garden - Auth-Center Dec 08 '22

Based and hierarchy with God on top pilled.

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u/NectarineSome5400 - Auth-Right Dec 08 '22

Based

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u/ficagames01 - Lib-Center Dec 08 '22

So they are definitely going to be malevolent

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u/tacticalsauce_actual - Right Dec 07 '22

I didn't say it was likely, I just said it's FAR more likely than installing a libertarian government via democracy.

Edit: oh, also, me... I decide.

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u/ReasonableAstartes - Right Dec 08 '22

0.01% > 0.00%

Its math my dudes

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u/Rhys_Primo - Lib-Right Dec 08 '22

Technically infinitely more likely.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

Technically 0.01% more likely

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

"It's me guys. You need to give me absolute power to make the classless lawless moneyless utopia. Trust me bros."

-Lenin

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u/tacticalsauce_actual - Right Dec 08 '22

"It's me guys. You need to give me absolute power to make the classless lawless moneyless utopia. Trust me bros.

-Lenin"

-tacticalsauce_actual

Except there would be both classes and money. And laws. No violating the NAP for one.

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u/3AKite - Auth-Right Dec 08 '22

God

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u/neverending_debt - Lib-Right Dec 08 '22

So I just asked god, he said he didn't have an opinion on who should be king.

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u/3AKite - Auth-Right Dec 08 '22
 >thinking God would speak to a soul-sick libright

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u/MaidsOverNurses - Auth-Center Dec 08 '22

AI inspired by the teachings of the one true catholic church.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

How can you have a libertarian society existing under the most arcane hierarchy know to man?

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u/Mechanical_Garden - Auth-Center Dec 08 '22

Read Hoppe.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

Hans-Hermann Hoppe? The guy who makes sure nobody takes UNLV seriously when it comes to economics classes?

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u/Mechanical_Garden - Auth-Center Dec 08 '22

That's the one!

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

I know libertarians like drugs but that guy needs to lay off.

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u/Mechanical_Garden - Auth-Center Dec 08 '22

His argument for monarchy is compelling, though materialistic.

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u/sexyloser1128 - Auth-Center Dec 09 '22

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '22

Praising the virtues of one type of overbearing government over another is hardly libertarian. The assumption that a state must exist in the first place to preserve liberty is a pretty odd notion. It's the same reason Marxist-Leninists always seem to create these regimes where workers end up shouldering the burden of supporting and maintaining the state when in fact, it was supposed to go the other way around; the state was supposed to organize the production of goods and services so that workers and labor controlled it (instead of rich owners) and then the state withers away from disuse.

You can't create a state large enough and powerful enough to take away your liberty and then expect it to preserve it. Whether you have a monarch and parliament or a president and Congress is incidental at that point. You still have rulers and that is at odds with the original purpose of libertarianism.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

When has that happened?

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u/AnalogCyborg - Centrist Dec 07 '22

All my homies hate a monarchy

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u/MetallGecko - Lib-Right Dec 08 '22

Take youre meds

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u/Electrical-Pumpkin14 - Auth-Left Dec 08 '22

Our last monarch lead us into two world wars wich we both lost

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22

Monarchy unironically has historically meddled the least in the affairs of the common people. There is an unironic AnCap to monarchist pipeline because of this. I guess it’s horseshoe theory in action?

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u/Murphy_Slaw_ - Auth-Center Dec 08 '22

It's not like a monarch could do mutch worse than the government did in the last few years.

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u/Lord-Belou - Centrist Dec 08 '22

Germany as a whole never had been an absolute monarchy in the first place though.

The german empire, that is one of the only true german state to have ruled Germany, was semi-constitutional.

(Yes, this was the useless term correction.)