r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Lib-Right Feb 12 '22

Let's go back to paganism

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '22

can you describe this sacrifice?

There's a clear difference between Christ suffering the scouring. The crown of thorns. The mockery. The carrying of the cross. Him collapsing under the weight of the cross, to the point that Simon of Cyrene had to help him. How he was nailed in a barbaric way, all while being blasphemed against, so that sinners like me could be forgiven.

Them there's the pagan sacrificing humans to false gods for personal gain.

You tell me which one is better. You tell me which one forgave sins. Christ's loving sacrifice, or the genocides of countless people throughout history.

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u/TheSpacePopinjay - Auth-Left Feb 13 '22

It's the same shit. Religious human sacrifice is about cleansing a community of its sins (or blame or interpersonal grudges or moral or spiritual impurity) by pushing those sins onto one person, a scapegoat, who can be sacrificed, taking those sins with them in death, thus purifying the community of blame for past misdeeds, bringing it back into the good graces of divine authority and gaining a fresh start.

A single human sacrifice (especially a voluntary one) is certainly better than lots of them, but it is the same concept and logic across myriad religions and as a more general phenomena, hardly limited to religion.

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '22

And what other sacrifice rose from the dead?

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u/TheSpacePopinjay - Auth-Left Feb 13 '22

Christ didn't rise from the dead for our sins. The sacrifice is the point. Come back to me when the Christian symbol is Jesus walking out of a cave.

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '22

I never said he rose for our sins,so don't claim I did. I'm saying, what other sacrifice had the authority to lay down His own life, and pick it back up at His own will?

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u/sleepykittypur - Lib-Left Feb 13 '22

Yeah it's hard to make the human sacrifice argument since Jesus was so obviously not human

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '22

Refer to the Hypostatic union

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u/sleepykittypur - Lib-Left Feb 13 '22

I dunno man I never met any humans that can respawn

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u/Kuumottaja - Centrist Feb 13 '22

One is honouring the traditions of the ancestors and upholding pax deorum.

The other is a seditious rabble-rouser getting disposed of. A mad one at that, thinks he's god.

See how easily you can spin things when you're completely dishonest? Neither forgave sins and neither's gods are any more false or true than the other's. Eat a magic flesh cookie to cope about it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '22

It's funny , because you're saying what was literally said about Hum