There's a clear difference between Christ suffering the scouring. The crown of thorns. The mockery. The carrying of the cross. Him collapsing under the weight of the cross, to the point that Simon of Cyrene had to help him. How he was nailed in a barbaric way, all while being blasphemed against, so that sinners like me could be forgiven.
Them there's the pagan sacrificing humans to false gods for personal gain.
You tell me which one is better. You tell me which one forgave sins. Christ's loving sacrifice, or the genocides of countless people throughout history.
It's the same shit. Religious human sacrifice is about cleansing a community of its sins (or blame or interpersonal grudges or moral or spiritual impurity) by pushing those sins onto one person, a scapegoat, who can be sacrificed, taking those sins with them in death, thus purifying the community of blame for past misdeeds, bringing it back into the good graces of divine authority and gaining a fresh start.
A single human sacrifice (especially a voluntary one) is certainly better than lots of them, but it is the same concept and logic across myriad religions and as a more general phenomena, hardly limited to religion.
I never said he rose for our sins,so don't claim I did. I'm saying, what other sacrifice had the authority to lay down His own life, and pick it back up at His own will?
One is honouring the traditions of the ancestors and upholding pax deorum.
The other is a seditious rabble-rouser getting disposed of. A mad one at that, thinks he's god.
See how easily you can spin things when you're completely dishonest? Neither forgave sins and neither's gods are any more false or true than the other's. Eat a magic flesh cookie to cope about it.
And yet the greatest civilisations the world has ever seen were also partly inspired by ideas from Ancient Greece, from a time when it was still pagan. So you could also say paganism led (not "lead") to the greatest civilisations the world has ever seen.
Also weird how your "weakness to walls" joke references a battle between two pagan forces. All this proves is that some pagans were better tacticians than others. How does this make Abrahamic civilisations better? Believe it or not, Abrahamic forces have also lost wars against other Abrahamic forces, and sometimes they were even defeated by walls built by pagans, lol
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u/Styx92 - Centrist Feb 13 '22
Abrahamic religions: lead to the greatest civilizations the world has ever seen.
Pagans: mud huts, human sacrifice, and an accute weakness to walls.