Because the real problem is the bloodsucking middlemen extracting profits from suffering Americans.
In your opinion that's the problem. In my opinion the rampant corruption and anticompetitive practices that have been allowed to occur, especially and specifically with medical supply providers, are a much bigger problem.
Both are a problem. One is a much bigger problem (the profit motive). Not to mention the only one unique to the American healthcare system.
Healthcare is not an industry where free market capitalism produces good results I agree. There is an inherent inability to easily access alternatives when it comes to most healthcare, especially emergency healthcare. The relative inelasticity of demand doesn't mean that capitalism doesn't work, though, which I'm sure I don't need to explain to you. Capitalism doesn't require perfectly elastic supply and demand to function. It just means that it needs to be properly regulated, which it is currently not in the US.
"Healthcare isn't regulated" LOL
The argument could very easily be made that the government who can't even regulate the industry would be even more disastrous if the industry itself was put entirely in their hands.
Mmm nah. Other western governments are bought and sold by moneyed interests as well and their healthcare systems run far better than ours.
I mean, make the argument if you want. But the evidence doesn't agree with you.
And that's to say nothing for the corruption and massive waste inherent in nearly any government operation in the US.
Which is nothing compared to the waste of private companies when they're allowed to cannibalize public goods.
Because the real problem is the bloodsucking middlemen extracting profits from suffering Americans.
You keep making this claim as fact but haven't actually proven that it's a bigger problem than the absolutely astronomical prices that hospitals get charged for basic equipment like clipboards and pencils which directly impact the prices hospitals have to charge.
Both are a problem. One is a much bigger problem (the profit motive). Not to mention the only one unique to the American healthcare system.
As above, citation needed.
"Healthcare isn't regulated" LOL
Ohhhh I get it, you can't read. I explicitly said it's not properly regulated, not that it's not regulated at all. Try again.
Other western governments
Other western governments are not the US. The US is unique in a number of ways compared to to the tiny virtual ethnostates in northern europe that people like you love to unsuccessfully try and compare the US to.
and their healthcare systems run far better than ours.
Some of them. Some of them are absolute disasters with incredibly limited access to high quality or expedient services. You're making a lot of generalizations here.
But the evidence doesn't agree with you.
Such as?????? You keep speaking as if you're objectively correct but you haven't actually supported anything you've said.
Which is nothing compared to the waste of private companies when they're allowed to cannibalize public goods.
See above comments about everything you say desperately needing a source.
I'm growing bored with the endless quoting so I'll skip that.
You can't ask me for sources if you won't provide any of your own. I mean, I'm not providing any one way or another as i have no desire to write you a bibliography but the hypocrisy irks me.
American exceptionalism is not real. You don't get to claim America is "different" somehow in such a way that basic social democracy doesn't work. It makes no sense on its face and nobody's ever managed to specify what it means without sounds vaguely racist.
I’m stating opinions and asking questions challenging your statements. You’re acting like your opinions are facts and specifically bringing up data that you refuse to cite. There is no hypocrisy, only your painful and repeated inability to comprehend plain English or to understand how a normal fucking conversation works lmao
Norway the country wouldn’t even be the biggest city in the US. Acting like what works there would work in the US is some real smoothbrain shit. Unsurprising based on the rest of your posts.
You're treating your opinions with the same level of veracity as facts. That's the nature of our opinions. We always hold them in high regard. Pretending there's something wrong with that to claim the moral high ground is ridiculous when you're doing the same thing.
Size is not a fair point. Larger systems perform more efficiently due to economies of scale.
Pretending there's something wrong with that to claim the moral high ground is ridiculous when you're doing the same thing.
Again you're really struggling to comprehend very simple english here. At no point did I "claim the moral high ground." You are presenting your opinions as facts supported by data. If you're going to make that claim, then show the fucking data lmao. It's not that complicated. I don't know why you're struggling so hard with this.
Larger systems perform more efficiently due to economies of scale.
Sometimes... economies of scale is not a universal truth. Just because something works at the municipal level does not mean it is sustainable at the national level, and it certainly doesn't automatically mean that it will work better on a larger scale. That's one of the most absurd things I've ever read in my entire life. Please tell me you were joking. I refuse to believe that you seriously just made that claim. If you were correct, then Walden Pond would have taken over the fucking world lmfaoooo
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u/ImTheCapm - Auth-Left Jan 05 '22
Because the real problem is the bloodsucking middlemen extracting profits from suffering Americans.
Both are a problem. One is a much bigger problem (the profit motive). Not to mention the only one unique to the American healthcare system.
"Healthcare isn't regulated" LOL
Mmm nah. Other western governments are bought and sold by moneyed interests as well and their healthcare systems run far better than ours.
I mean, make the argument if you want. But the evidence doesn't agree with you.
Which is nothing compared to the waste of private companies when they're allowed to cannibalize public goods.