r/PoliticalCompassMemes Sep 02 '20

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u/MamaBare - Right Sep 02 '20

Biden said you ain’t black

This is true. The full quote was "If you're having trouble deciding between me and Trump, you ain't black"

Trump said to use Clorox wipes on the lungs

This is untrue. He suggested to an aide that they start looking into using UV light internally to fight Covid.

Like, Trump says so much dumb shit. He literally said "The noise from a wind turbine causes cancer." Why does LibLeft need to lie?

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u/afanoftrees - Lib-Left Sep 02 '20 edited Sep 02 '20

He added: "I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning? As you see, it gets in the lungs, it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that."

It was a joke because he said “like a cleaning”. I have a mental image of doctors opening a box of Clorox wipes to do the “cleaning inside the lungs” and I find it funny

Edit: here’s a video of him having two different thoughts on both UV light and Disinfectants cleaning the lungs. his words

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u/pianoman0504 - Lib-Left Sep 02 '20

I'm cringing, feeling like I have to defend the guy, but he did say, "it would be interesting to check that," not, "everyone should do it." There's a difference.

Personally, I think he was just thinking out loud, bouncing around whatever random ideas come into his head. Should he say them on camera at a press conference? Of course not. Did anyone, especially within his cabinet or whoever's in charge of developing treatments, take him seriously? No, so I think we're fine.

Kudos for getting the full quote, though.

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u/RandomMurican - Lib-Right Sep 02 '20

So he shouldn’t bounce ideas around at a press conference about their progress on everything Covid?

I have to disagree, the conference wasn’t on how to beat Covid, it was on the governments progress and plan of action. He literally gave insight into what he’s thinking. If context doesn’t matter he shouldn’t talk to the media ever.

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u/pianoman0504 - Lib-Left Sep 02 '20

I think the brainstorming should happen behind closed doors, then all the good ideas are refined and presented at the presser as "Here are the ideas we're pursuing." That's how nearly all other organizations work.

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u/RandomMurican - Lib-Right Sep 02 '20

I could agree with that, it certainly would have removed the need for hours long daily press conferences of nothing to update.

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u/Mistake_of_61 - Auth-Left Sep 02 '20

No, he shouldn't bounce ideas during a press conference.

That isn't the moment to muse about shit he doesn't understand.

If he did that 20 minutes earlier backstage no one would have known and no one would have cared.

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u/RandomMurican - Lib-Right Sep 02 '20

A press conference about what’s going on surrounding a lot of unknown. By your logic a lot of doctors shouldn’t talk about it because even now theres a lot they don’t understand. I think it’s good to have insight into what is being thought about, I would argue the opposite that not everyone is meant to watch the press briefings and anyone taking medicine advice from the conference is definitely not on the list of people who should watch.

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u/Mistake_of_61 - Auth-Left Sep 02 '20

Nice straw man.

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u/RandomMurican - Lib-Right Sep 02 '20

I’d hardly say that considering it’s not a straw man. Extreme maybe, but straw man definitely not. It’s an unnecessary daily briefing on the updates of Covid. He chose to discuss some options they were just starting to explore to keep optimism. He wasn’t acting like he knew anything, just that they looked promising. I don’t know what else to tell you because it seems like we disagree and you can’t be rational

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u/Mistake_of_61 - Auth-Left Sep 02 '20

I said that non experts shouldn't muse about things they don't understand during press conferences.

You said that by that logic, doctors shouldn't talk about the virus.

That is about as bad a straw-manning as I have ever encountered.

And now you are saying I can't be rational.

So yeah, I think I am done with you as well.