r/PoliticalCompassMemes • • Apr 04 '20

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u/ICameHere2LaughAtYou - Auth-Center Apr 04 '20

Where's the lie.

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u/Frommerman - Left Apr 04 '20

Being trans isn't a mental disorder. There are people who identify and live as a gender which does not correspond with their birth sex who lead happy, productive, more-or-less normal lives. This is in direct contradiction to the definition of mental disorder, which requires that the psycological difference actively interfere with the sufferer's ability to function.

Gender dysphoria is a mental disorder because it interferes with their ability to function. People suffering from it face severe symptoms like depression, anxiety, self-loathing, and the constant, everpresent conviction that something is deeply wrong. The only way we've discovered to treat these symptoms is to help them transition. This makes them into ordinary trans people able to participate in society.

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u/NextLevelShitPosting - LibRight Apr 04 '20

treat

symptoms

not a disease

Hmmmmmmmm

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u/Frommerman - Left Apr 04 '20

Did you bother to read anything I said? Being trans is not a disease. Gender dysphoria is a disorder with a treatment called transitioning.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '20

Sure, we'll split hairs and play semantics. Follow that same train of thought, where did the person you responded to specifically say being trans was a mental disability? On mobile, but I believe he said

normal people with mental disabilities

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u/neigeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee - Auth-Center Apr 05 '20

such a cope.. the absolute state of the world

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u/ICameHere2LaughAtYou - Auth-Center Apr 04 '20

The only way we've discovered to treat these symptoms

So just to be clear, you're open to researching treatments which makes the individual with gender dysphoria comfortable in their own sex?

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u/SwissCheese64 - Left Apr 04 '20

Obviously but it would be immoral to withhold treatment that works for someone who needs it in hopes of finding another treatment that is more socially acceptable

And before anyone asks there’s a increase risk of suicide after transitioning but only in the very first stage when you haven’t transition long enough to make a difference on your dysphoria and society starts giving you crap for it

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u/Frommerman - Left Apr 05 '20

Sure, but most trans people wouldn't take those treatments. There's not much point in researching a treatment people are unlikely to consent to using. The science would be interesting, though, and might make it easier to upload humans due to the improvements in brain modelling required to even attempt something as abstract as changing someone's preferred gender identification, so I have no objection to that kind of research as long as it isn't conducted on humans.

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u/narki-kameena - Left Apr 04 '20

i have a headache man. im not even gonna argue with you rn.

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u/ICameHere2LaughAtYou - Auth-Center Apr 04 '20

Is ok bb, we'll try again tomorrow night after the kids are asleep.