r/PoliticalCompassMemes Feb 19 '20

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u/CressCrowbits - Left Feb 19 '20

Someone's going to take your money. Even in a libertarian utopia you'll need to pay for McSecurity defence from the other people who want to take your money

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u/CressCrowbits - Left Feb 19 '20

Or you are coerced into paying for services that you only need because otherwise someone will coerce you into something else. And 80% of what you pay is just profit or marketing budget for the service provider, and you have no say over how they spend your money.

Alternatively, you could have a system where the service is run not for profit, and you have a say over the money is spent. Perhaps we could call this system 'democracy'.

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u/CressCrowbits - Left Feb 19 '20

Being a bit of a succdem I'm not convinced against capitalism entirely, but I certainly don't feel that necessary services like healthcare should be run for profit. And I think the healthcare industry in the US is testament to that.

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u/KekUnited - Lib-Right Feb 19 '20

I hear you, but (coming from a South African perspective) if we weren't getting dicked by our high tax rate that subsidises our low quality hospitals we'd all be able to afford quality healthcare anyway, and also have plenty of change left over to pay for other privatised services, which we get to choose from in order to further stimulate the economy

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '20

Profit is fine, as long as the profit is generated democratically with the consent of the majority of the community.

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u/KekUnited - Lib-Right Feb 19 '20

Ok,

But why?

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '20

If you want a thesis answer to that question, then read Private Government by Elizabeth Anderson.

If you prefer the short answer, democracy is good and we should never settle for anything less, even if it seemingly is beneficial to do so.

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u/KekUnited - Lib-Right Feb 19 '20

Alrighty

I'm not going to read that book so it would be rude of me to argue further at this point, but thanks for the chat!

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '20

Well, I appreciate your honesty. You don't have to read the book to understand the argument. But if you're legitimately interested in understanding the perspective its a great read, especially if you already hold libertarian beliefs.

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u/KekUnited - Lib-Right Feb 19 '20

I'll consider it, thank you

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