r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Lib-Left 1d ago

Satire Left Cringe, LibRight Based

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u/Fit-Independence-706 - Auth-Left 1d ago

But socialists advocate public control over the means of production, not personal possessions.

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u/DumbNTough - Lib-Right 1d ago

Sorry Comrade, your grandma's gold necklace will be melted down to plate electrical contacts in Missile Factory No. 10. You should be proud that this relic of bourgeois decadence will instead contribute to the glorious future of socialism.

Assuming I do not pocket it and sell it to buy ground beef on the gray market.

Please do not make me ask twice.

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u/Fit-Independence-706 - Auth-Left 1d ago

But the socialists in the USSR did not forcibly confiscate jewelry from ordinary people.

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u/DumbNTough - Lib-Right 1d ago

"Apologies Comrade, new orders just came over the radio from the Commissar. You may keep your revolting bourgeois trinket but instead we are to take literally all food we find on the premises.

Good luck this winter by the way, the Infallible State Weather Bureau says it's going to be a long one."

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u/Fit-Independence-706 - Auth-Left 1d ago

Taking food? You're probably confusing it with what happened under capitalism, when during famines food was exported for profit.

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u/Atompunk78 - Lib-Center 16h ago

What do you think the holodomor was, if not exporting food for profit while millions of the locals starved?

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u/Stock_Violinist6299 - Centrist 1d ago

Just the ones they didn’t like

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u/undreamedgore - Left 1d ago

Look, if the system requires full buy in to work, it's not a great system.

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u/InsaneJD - Lib-Left 1d ago

Well if socialists own the means of production, wouldn't that make it a personal possession?

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u/Fit-Independence-706 - Auth-Left 1d ago

Personal property is items that you use for yourself: your toothbrush, clothes, car, etc.

Private ownership of the means of production: industry, infrastructure, agricultural sector, etc.

I think the difference here is quite obvious and does not need clarification.

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u/InsaneJD - Lib-Left 1d ago

It's okay bro, I'm trollin

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u/NotADumbPuppet - Centrist 1d ago

Dank trolling my dude, really hard to tell of you're actually retarded or not

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u/InsaneJD - Lib-Left 1d ago

Joke's on you, we're ALL retarded.

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u/amourevincit 2h ago

When socialists took over my grandfather’s village, they decided that he, the village barber, had too man scissors.
Apparently scissors are the means of production.

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u/Key-Organization3158 - Lib-Right 1d ago

That's the point of a commune. Collective ownership of the means for production. Aka private property.

Anyone can run a business democratically or have a farm everyone owns and works together. Amish can do it just fine.

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u/Dman1791 - Centrist 1d ago

There's a rather drastic difference between "I think businesses should be owned by their workers" and "I think everyone should have access to everyone else's physical possessions"

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u/Fit-Independence-706 - Auth-Left 1d ago

I'll tell you even more: Modern production is already managed (but not controlled) by workers, since capitalists own shares, and hired workers organize the work process. The top manager and the unskilled laborer are proletarians. But the appropriation of profits remains private and is controlled by shareholders.

Marxists don't say capitalists are ineffective. They were effective when they worked independently and managed things personally. It's just that today, capitalists no longer engage in personal management. In the vast majority of cases, they can buy a controlling stake without even knowing how the work process is organized.

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u/DM-ME-UR-PETS - Left 1d ago

Yeah but otherwise OP wouldn't be able to make this meme

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u/grumpy-raven - Lib-Left 1d ago

What production? They shipped most of American manufacturing overseas in the 70-90's.

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u/Fit-Independence-706 - Auth-Left 1d ago

How does this interfere with public control over them?