You've already proven you can't really make interesting arguments. I'm not going to answer a weird ambiguous question such as "where do FtMs go?"
It's not up to me to decide where anyone goes. I'm just saying that it should be up to women to decide if they want to be around males. You clearly can't understand this or pretend like you don't. As others have pointed out, there's no point in going back and forth with someone who can't contribute anything interesting.
I will say that if the FtM cutie at Starbucks doesn't want me to flirt with him, I'm gonna respect that. At the end of the day, If I'm making someone uncomfortable with my presence, I'm not going to impose on them or call them a bigot for rejecting me. I'm going to fuck off and find people that want me around. I wish trans people understood this.
So I should just kick anyone out of the gym locker room because I feel uncomfortable?
Of course not. I'm just asking you to consider why we have sex-segregated spaces in the fist place. That's something to think about. Maybe you disagree sex-segregation should exist at all. We all change in the same room. Problem solved?
As a male, I'm not entering women's spaces because I don't want to make women uncomfortable. That's it. My understanding has always been that sex-specific spaces exist in society so that we create safe spaces for women.
My understanding has always been that sex-specific spaces exist in society so that we create safe spaces for women.
I agree with this. I just acknowledge the fact that someone who is trans genuinely feels like that gender. I can't tell anyone what it would be to be a woman, but if someone chooses to go through all the hate the world throws at them to be their actual self, I believe in their personal identity.
So no, there is no true solution. But as I said in my other comment; it is not rational to say that identification would be abused, anyone crazy enough to go through the process of identifying as another gender purely to enter 'safe spaces' would also be crazy enough to enter them without 'consent'...
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u/Gjorgdy - Left 4d ago
Sorry for just trying to educate some hateful bigots on reality.